Comment on Is there a more politically conservative part of the fediverse?

• mayo@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I agree with this but we aren’t talking about castings votes here and I’m assuming OP is voting as if he is a sane person, but what are they supposed to do with the values they hold that don’t align with liberalism?

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  • Hobbes@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I would decide which is worse: the things I listed, or the things the voter may dislike about liberal policies like free healthcare for all.

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  • Eldritch@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    but what are they supposed to do with the values they hold that don’t align with liberalism?

    Grow as a person. Something we should all strive to do. There are plenty of places I diverged from all the hard right liberals. Mostly around the capitalism fetish. But I can support them at least because of their more pro social democracy stance. But I can articulate and explain the logic why when asked. As a socialist I also diverge heavily from anti social democracy socialists. And again, can general explain and point out the reasons why. Things most of my fellow Americans have little understanding of or desire too. But none of us are perfect, nor will we ever be. But that isn’t a reason to stop growing.

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• Snowman44@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I only vote republican when they have good views. I’d rather get rid of political parties and make people run on merit alone.

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  • Hobbes@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What was the last decade where that happened?

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• xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If you have only two choices and both are bad, you have to choose the lesser evil. The OP probably doesn’t like the racism and stuff, but they dislike certain policies of the other party even more.

  Also, “trying to make it harder for people to vote” is an interesting way to say “requiring people to bring their citizen ID when voting, like in any civilized country”.

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  • Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I would say that the dismantling of human rights would be a greater evil than the things the democrats could cook up, but if you are not affected and have no empathy for others it could be better to vote for the republicans.

    And werent the conditions to be able to vote pretty restrictive to a lot of people?

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    • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I live in a country where identification is required for voting and it doesn’t feel restrictive. On the contrary, I’m glad someone can’t just vote in my name.

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      • Jaytreeman@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        In the US the largest group of people without id's are Democrats and black.

        It's literally making the system more racist.

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      • richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        In my country:

        • We have a mandatory national ID
        • Having it automatically registers you as a voter after 16 y.o.
        • Voting is mandatory between 18 and 70.
        • We vote on Sundays to ensure everyone can go.
        • Voting in always in person. We usually use schools to that end, windows are obscured to ensure secrecy.
        • We record who voted against the electoral registry. Only the last issued national ID is valid to vote.

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  • Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I'm thinking specifically of gerrymandering but this article covers the many voter disenfranchisement methods used by Republicans in the US in the past decades:

    https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/09/29/stacking-the-deck-how-the-gop-works-to-suppress-minority-voting/

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