Comment on What is the Anti Commercial-Al license and why do people keep adding it to their comments?

Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  @Pacrat173@lemmy.ml the license is actually a Creative Commons license for Non-Commercial uses. Creative Commons is a copyleft license that’s “free to use with some restrictions”. Mostly used in art, literature, audio, and film, for my part I’m using it to license my comments. Anybody can cite with attribution, but commercial use is forbidden by the license.

  The why: I just don’t like non-opensource commercial ventures. Google, Microsoft, Oracle, Facebook, Apple, and so on are harmful in many ways.

  Enforcement and legality: Microsoft’s Github CoPilot (a large language model / “AI”) was trained on copyrighted text source code. A few licenses clearly state that derivatives should also be opensource, which CoPilot is not. So there is a big lawsuit against it. Many artists, non-programmer authors, musicians, and others are also unhappy that AI was trained on their copyrighted works and have sued for damages.
  Until these cases make it out of court, it will not be clear if adding a license to comments could even jeopardize commercial AI vendors.

  Anti Commercial-AI license

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  • TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How exactly do you expect to see the “source” of a language model?

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    Hey does anyone want to buy a t-shirt from me with this guy’s worst comments printed on it?

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    • onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How exactly do you expect to see the “source” of a language model?

      • Nvidia’s AI software tricked into leaking data -ChatGPT Can Reveal Personal Information From Real People, Google Researchers Show
      • GitHub Copilot Emits GPL. Codeium Does Not.

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      • TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah that’s not the source, that’s still output. You don’t seem to understand how LLMs work and yet have taken a bizarre stance on it anyway.

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    • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I want a t-shirt with Dalton from Roadhouse on it that says “Keep it Swayze!”.

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  • JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Are you saying Microsoft CoPilot didn’t respect copyleft licences? How are they not getting totally sued for something obviously illegal? Or is it only when copyright violations harm big companies that people get sued?

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    • onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I said so in my comment

      So there is a big lawsuit against it

      • www.theregister.com/2022/11/07/in_brief_ai/
      • www.bakerlaw.com/the-copilot-litigation/
      • theregister.com/…/github_copilot_copyright_case_n…

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  • Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Seriously what is up with people and the downvotes on this. It is just a link guys.

    A lot of this hate feels a bit manufactured because I can’t honestly think of a good reason why so many would be so against this.

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    • my_hat_stinks@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Likely because it’s blatant misinformation and very spammy. Licences permit additional use, they do not restrict use beyond what copyright already does. I imagine there’d be fewer downvotes if they didn’t incorrectly claim licencing their content was somehow anti-AI. Still spammy and pointless, but at least not misinformation.

      Imagine if someone ended every comment with “I DO NOT GRANT PERMISSION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT TO READ THIS COMMENT. ANY USE OF THIS COMMENT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR ANY REASON IS ILLEGAL. THIS COMMENT CANNOT BE USED AS EVIDENCE AGAINST ANY NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONS IN RELATION TO ANY CRIME.”

      A bit silly, no?

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      • AtariDump@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Thanks for this; this is now my signature line when dealing with one of these people.

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      • onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        As a lawyer, what’s your opinion on the CC BY-NC-SA v4 license?

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      • CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Likely because it’s blatant misinformation and very spammy.

        Its not, and feel free to block people who ‘spam’, vs. trying to format the whole Internet to look just like how you want it to look.

        ~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~

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    • CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      A lot of this hate feels a bit manufactured because I can’t honestly think of a good reason why so many would be so against this.

      At this point I’m pretty sure its AI model creating astroturfers desperating trying to get people to not license their content (comments).

      If its instead just anti-social people being tools for corporations, then I weep for the species.

      ~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~

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  • CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What he / she said.

    ~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~

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    • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They.

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      • CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yep, sorry. Still training my 20th century mindset for the 21st century. Teaching old dogs new tricks and all that, but I’m trying.

        I hate using ‘they’ though, because it always signals “more than one” to me, plural, when I’m talking about a specific singular person.

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