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MilitantVegan@lemmy.world 7 months agoWhat leaves a bad taste for the vegan community is when a vegan tries to coddle carnists because they’re afraid of not fitting in. Animal abuse is shameful, and people should be confronted and shamed for their abuses.
TheDoozer@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I get what you’re saying, but the reality is if you are trying to do good, it doesn’t matter how “right” you are if you are a dick about it.
Take Doctor Ignaz Semmelweis, for example. He worked hard and found a way to dramatically reduce deaths of women in childbirth (and tons of others besides) by washing hands after autopsies. Instead of trying to convince other doctors and influence the medical culture, he confronted and shamed other doctors, even to the point the doctors who he had gotten to start washing their hands stopped. Could he have caught more flies with honey than vinegar? Probably. But he was right, so what did it matter the method he used?
What mattered is hand-washing didn’t get adopted. But I’m sure being right offered him some comfort when he was dying of sepsis in a mental asylum. Not to mention the women who died of infection.
The point is, do you want to Be Right, or do you want to do good? Because all this makes it sound like you want to Be Right.
cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 7 months ago
What an apt comparison
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 7 months ago
So you’re saying carnists are the baby killers in this metaphor? Yeah, I’m not sure you’re making a good point about catching flies with honey while saying the flies/baby killers have their heads so far up their asses and are so stupid that they have to be tricked into doing the right thing.
TheDoozer@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Well that answers that, doesn’t it.
Then there’s your answer. Your memes get deleted and your comments get down voted because you aren’t trying to do any good, you’re just trying to flaunt how Right and morally superior you are.
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 7 months ago
Huh? They’re not my memes. I’m not OP. I just think your metaphor is contrary to your point.