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• pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Wait, is it seriously a full-blown UE5 application?

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  • DdCno1@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I was going to call shenanigans, but then I looked at the details of the application:

    https://i.imgur.com/J30SGAr.png

    So it seems there is something to it.

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    • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you peruse the folder where it’s installed and compared to any UE4 or UE5 game, you’ll notice all the other similarities in .dll files, folders and whatnot. Even the CrashReporter.exe is the same you see in unreal games. Or you can check the config files at Epic Games\Launcher\Engine\Config which has stuff like BaseEngine.ini which, among other networking configurations, also has this:

      [/Script/Engine.Engine]
      ConsoleClassName=/Script/Engine.Console
      GameViewportClientClassName=/Script/Engine.GameViewportClient
      LocalPlayerClassName=/Script/Engine.LocalPlayer
      WorldSettingsClassName=/Script/Engine.WorldSettings
      NavigationSystemClassName=/Script/NavigationSystem.NavigationSystemV1
      NavigationSystemConfigClassName=/Script/NavigationSystem.NavigationSystemModuleConfig
      AvoidanceManagerClassName=/Script/Engine.AvoidanceManager
      PhysicsCollisionHandlerClassName=/Script/Engine.PhysicsCollisionHandler
      

      So, yeah, it’s the actual engine. I was going to complain about disk bloat, but my Steam install is currently sitting at 1.3GB and I’m not entirely sure how much of that is from cached stuff. GOG Galaxy is taking ~980MB, but roughly 650MB are from redist installers (MSVC2005, 2007, dotnet, etc), so a “clean” install would be way lighter than Steam or EGS, the latter at 1.1GB on a clean install.

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    • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That is ridiculous. Even Electron would have been better…

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• steakmeoutt@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why is it stupid exactly? UE5 scales very well and places very little demand on hardware for simple tasks.

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ever heard the saying “Everything looks like a nail when you have a hammer”? Basically, just because you have a tool, it doesn’t mean it’s the best tool for every job. UE5 is great for making games, cinematics and loads of other stuff. But why use it to effectively behave as a browser like Chrome or Firefox, but worse, when there are alternatives made specifically for that?

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    • steakmeoutt@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s not really a valid response. Please accurately clarify why UE5 is inefficient at running a store. Benchmarks and other evidence is required.

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      • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I don’t think benchmarks are really needed to explain this. The whole game engine part is an unnecessary step.

        To initialize a web browser component within UE5, you first need to initialize UE5 and then the web browser within it. Or, you could initialize a web browser directly, saving the memory and time needed to start up UE5.

        They clearly have developers who know how to use CEF or whatever web view framework since they added it to Unreal Engine, so it’s not like they don’t know how to just add it to a standalone application.

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