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• Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Men killing women and women being afraid of being killed by men is apparently exactly the same thing, and we’re sexist for even noticing it. How dare we make them aware of an uncomfortable truth that they were successfully ignoring?

  As always, noticing bigotry is the real bigotry.

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  • Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s not a hard concept to grasp. Thank you for saying it, and don’t pay the salty dudes here any mind. I readily tell the ones that argue on behalf of their egos to just talk to any woman they know about this, and I always get some half-cocked “well they’re bigots too” line.

    Like yeah, every woman is explicitly taught by other women not to put themselves in a potentially compromising position with a man because all women are secretly bigots.

    The male ego is such a fragile thing.

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  • PastaCeci@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thanks for saying that. The sheer volume of unadulterated bullshit can be a little bit gaslighting sometimes.

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      • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I wanna add that it’s a delight to see someone competently explaining something that needs to be more widely understood.

        This is what social media should be for. The ever advancing push towards consensus and common understanding.

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• MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No, no, you’re supposed to treat everyone fairly, the exact same way and always assuming they are the best, most stable people who would never react adversely to a “no” or any other negative occurrence.

  And then when you run into that statistically inevitable crazy person, just let em beat you to death! You wouldn’t want to hurt the feelings of all the perfectly decent people you met before then, would you?

  Big giant /S

  This is unfortunately one of those cases where the mere existence of damgerous individuals makes being a little unfair with the rest of us completely warranted.

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• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Woah now, you better not be insinuating that men and women are anything but exactly equal in their temperament.

  I’ve honestly been taught that blanket statements about sex/gender are usually not fine. So this sort of shit feels wrong in that sense and of course hurtful when you’re at the receiving end of a negative blanket statement.

  Apparently watching out for your own safety as a woman by treating men differently is sexist and completely unacceptable.

  I mean treating all men different is sexist and prejudiced. There’s really no way around that. Whether this sort of blanket prejudice is justified in this case, could be. But also that’s not a great look, to justify statistics or stereotype based prejudice.

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  • Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    1 in 3 women experience sexual assault of some kind in their lifetimes. 98% of the perpetrators are men.

    It’s not unreasonable for a woman to avoid putting herself in a situation that a potential predator can take advantage of. Talk to a woman you know about this. I’m tired of having this conversation with men who don’t understand and just get offended.

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    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m tired of having this conversation with men who don’t understand and just get offended.

      Easy solution would be to talk about it in a manner that doesn’t need a clarification that’s you don’t think all men are like that. That’s really the issue with the way this is discussed.

      Nobody is denying the situation here, but rather taking offence to being labeled because of their gender.

      You have been on the receiving end your entire life if you are a man, and 9 times out of 10, you have not noticed because it does not affect you.

      I’m sorry but receiving end of what?

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      • Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Easy solution would be to talk about it in a manner that doesn’t need a clarification that’s you don’t think all men are like that. That’s really the issue with the way this is discussed.

        Believe me, that’s not the solution you think it is.

        Nobody is denying the situation here, but rather taking offence to being labeled because of their gender.

        Unfortunately, people who take offense will find ways to deny the situation. The fact is, if you’re walking down the street and a woman 100 ft out moves to the other side before crossing you, she understands that there is a slight chance you might be a danger to her.

        That’s discrimination that you can neither control nor fight against as a man. It also doesn’t affect you if you weren’t planning on assaulting that woman. But just the fact that it is done rustles so many jimmies because the knee jerk reaction men have is “well I wasn’t going to assault anyone so that’s messed up”. But that line of thinking is a way of framing the situation to make it about you. It’s not about you.

        What I’m saying is, women don’t think all men are like that. That would be completely ridiculous. But statistically, enough of them are to warrant not being immediately trusting of strangers that can biologically overpower them in every situation.

        I’m sorry but receiving end of what?

        Bro. I quoted you. The receiving end of “a negative blanket” against men

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• quindraco@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Bear in mind Lemmy is an overall very leftist platform. Claiming an outside observer can tell a man from a woman is going to attract downvotes, let alone going on to list alleged specific differences.

  Note to readers, because I am used to Lemmy: Anyone assuming I agree or disagree with any given take on gender differences can fuck off. My actual post conveys no opinion on them.

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  • Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re completely correct. Normally, I’m on the side of not assuming people’s gender and I’m of the mind that you shouldn’t judge a book by it’s cover.

    But, because of the safety and personal ramifications crossing the wrong person can have, I think it’s important that we acknowledge a woman’s right to seek safety in a situation she perceives might possibly go south for her. That includes the prerogative of not putting herself in a situation that she perceives as risky to begin with.

    Maybe that concept would be better accepted if it were expanded to “Anyone should have the right to avoid danger they think they might be in”

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