BugleFingers@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Outside of a physiological abnormality, there is zero reason any human would be incapable of being entirely and completely fluent in any particular language.
The only potential differences could be: accent or maybe sentence structure. However if both were raised from talking age in the same place where birth origins are different those differences would never exist. Those potential differences are only for those who may learn it later in life. Even then, only a maybe.
You might get some personal variation based on cultural influences and the like too, but it isn’t significant enough to affect fluency.
Like saying like a lot.
Although I am a little bit curious about how accents might work if someone’s first language was something completely different to their second. If they spoke a click language, for example, would that carry over? Or the inverse.
If they spoke a click language, for example, would that carry over? Or the inverse.
Clicks are simply a category of consonants. They “carry over” as much as any other consonant. That is:
It would be theoretically possible that, if your L1 has clicks and your L2 has a consonant that your L1 doesn’t, you end replacing some consonant there with a specific click. In practice I wouldn’t count on that.
aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m getting some serious eugenics vibes from the OP
BugleFingers@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I did see some comments by OP, whether feigning ignorance or truly unaware, I wanted to make a comment that was unambiguous and very clear.
It seemed OP was unhappy with some of the other responses or felt like it wasn’t entirely answered so this way hopefully there is no confusion that the concept they were asking about just does not exist. If it was ignorance, hopefully they learned and move on. If not, well that’s a choice they made and there’s nothing us internet people can do beside answer honestly and condemn poor viewpoints like eugenics.
red_pigeon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Ok. I thought I’ll clear things up. Yes I had received the relevant responses and I’m happy with the answers I got.
But I’d like to bring attention to comments like yours or the one prior to it, because I see such comments throughout lemmy. It assumes the worst from someone’s post/comment and gives a negative spin for the discussion.
My question was genuine and if you must know it arose from my curiosity that if there will be a language that I cannot be 100% fluent in even if I try. Thought I’d ask with others.
But now I’m wondering if any of my comments were offensive and reading through them again I don’t think I was (hence this response). Again since I’m a non native English speaker, I apologise if it were.
But the whole discussion has moved away from the original point. I had never heard of Eugenics, which from the little I read now, are deeply disturbing concepts. I’m sad that my question could be compared to it.
The point is to ask stupid questions here. And mine was stupid enough. I got my responses from others. But please stop this trend of putting words into people’s mouths and negativistic spin on things. It doesn’t brew a healthy community. People will fear asking questions here (or anywhere in Lemmy).
richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 8 months ago
No.
Google “sealioning” and “JAQing off” to understand why not.
BugleFingers@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You seem to misunderstand what I said and why I said it. In my response to the other person which is what you are responding to, I simply was giving you a concise answer based on your other replies.
I made no claims as to your intentions and offered only clarity. My response was specifically that. If you did not know here is clarity, hopefully you learned and moved on. Otherwise there is not much internet strangers can do. I did specifically mentioned I did not know your intentions which is why I wrote it, for clarity.
If you felt my response was negative than you failed to understand what I wrote and there’s nothing I can really do about that