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I’d rather have viable potential for 5+ candidates running so that there’s more options than [the corporate sell outs] and [the regressive assholes that want to bring back slavery and institute puritanical christian theocracy while selling us off to the same corporations].

basically I’d like to have somebody that actually represents me.

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squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Without voting system reform, competitive 5 way races would be a disaster. That would mean a candidate could win with 23% of the vote. Imagine if you have Fascist McJones running vs 2 Liberals, 1 Leftist and Joe the Fruit Cookie. Fascist McJones gets 23%, 2 Liberals split 44%, Leftist gets 20% and Joe Fruit Cookie gets 13%. Fascist McJones wins despite their ideology having overall 41% less voters.

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- SupraMario@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  RCV doesn’t allow that to happen.
  
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  - squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Yes, that's what I meant by "without voting system reform".
    
    Someone pointed out flaws of RCV to me one time and had a suggestion for a better system, but unfortunately I don't recall the details.
    
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- FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Look, I didn’t say it was an easy thing to achieve. I said it’s a dream I have.
  
  Probably a pipe dream given current political realities. it really would be nice, though, to have people that we’re voting for based on their merits. and not because of the other idiot’s objectionable qualities. “The lesser of 2 evils” voting style is exactly why we’re in this place.
  
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  - squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Sure,l it's a lovely idea, just that switching to 3-5 way races without changing the voting system of winner-takes-all would be worse.
    
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sorebuttfromsitting@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
same, but “ranked choice voting” is the reform i would prefer

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- FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  ranked choice is one way to possibly get there.
  
  Another would be to force turn over with term limits. I mean, Mitch McConnell has been a senator for longer than I’ve been alive, and he’s only the thirteenth longest serving senator. hell, there’s a senator or two that predate the freaking CRA.
  
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  - sorebuttfromsitting@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    whether it’s “ranked choice” or “term limits” or “Supreme Court ethics”, can you fix any of this, in a Constitutional Framework?
    
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    FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    congress can- if they pull their heads out of their asses- impose ethics on the supreme court. States can go to ranked choice voting simply by doing it. Term limits would likely have to take an amendment.
    
    yes. we can fix it. Will it be easy? absolutely not because these assholes built a system to share power between the two parties specifically because sharing power was more advantageous than risking people that would not maintain the status quo in. (No, this isn’t a “both sides” argument. the republicans being objectively, subjectively and in any other way you care to measure it genuinely awful people, does not mean the democrats aren’t assholes, too.)
    
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