Comment on Why do Americans keep falling for the Democrat and Republican scare mongering and propaganda?
sorebuttfromsitting@sopuli.xyz 11 months agonah bro. just no. third parties only win in extraordinary, and terrible scenarios. it happens. what is it you want? an extraordinary and terrible situation?
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’d rather have viable potential for 5+ candidates running so that there’s more options than [the corporate sell outs] and [the regressive assholes that want to bring back slavery and institute puritanical christian theocracy while selling us off to the same corporations].
basically I’d like to have somebody that actually represents me.
squiblet@kbin.social 11 months ago
Without voting system reform, competitive 5 way races would be a disaster. That would mean a candidate could win with 23% of the vote. Imagine if you have Fascist McJones running vs 2 Liberals, 1 Leftist and Joe the Fruit Cookie. Fascist McJones gets 23%, 2 Liberals split 44%, Leftist gets 20% and Joe Fruit Cookie gets 13%. Fascist McJones wins despite their ideology having overall 41% less voters.
SupraMario@lemmy.world 11 months ago
RCV doesn’t allow that to happen.
squiblet@kbin.social 11 months ago
Yes, that's what I meant by "without voting system reform".
Someone pointed out flaws of RCV to me one time and had a suggestion for a better system, but unfortunately I don't recall the details.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Look, I didn’t say it was an easy thing to achieve. I said it’s a dream I have.
Probably a pipe dream given current political realities. it really would be nice, though, to have people that we’re voting for based on their merits. and not because of the other idiot’s objectionable qualities. “The lesser of 2 evils” voting style is exactly why we’re in this place.
squiblet@kbin.social 11 months ago
Sure,l it's a lovely idea, just that switching to 3-5 way races without changing the voting system of winner-takes-all would be worse.
sorebuttfromsitting@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
same, but “ranked choice voting” is the reform i would prefer
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 months ago
ranked choice is one way to possibly get there.
Another would be to force turn over with term limits. I mean, Mitch McConnell has been a senator for longer than I’ve been alive, and he’s only the thirteenth longest serving senator. hell, there’s a senator or two that predate the freaking CRA.
sorebuttfromsitting@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
whether it’s “ranked choice” or “term limits” or “Supreme Court ethics”, can you fix any of this, in a Constitutional Framework?