Comment on Why do Americans keep falling for the Democrat and Republican scare mongering and propaganda?

• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’d rather have viable potential for 5+ candidates running so that there’s more options than [the corporate sell outs] and [the regressive assholes that want to bring back slavery and institute puritanical christian theocracy while selling us off to the same corporations].

  basically I’d like to have somebody that actually represents me.

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  • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Without voting system reform, competitive 5 way races would be a disaster. That would mean a candidate could win with 23% of the vote. Imagine if you have Fascist McJones running vs 2 Liberals, 1 Leftist and Joe the Fruit Cookie. Fascist McJones gets 23%, 2 Liberals split 44%, Leftist gets 20% and Joe Fruit Cookie gets 13%. Fascist McJones wins despite their ideology having overall 41% less voters.

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    • SupraMario@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      RCV doesn’t allow that to happen.

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      • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes, that's what I meant by "without voting system reform".

        Someone pointed out flaws of RCV to me one time and had a suggestion for a better system, but unfortunately I don't recall the details.

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    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Look, I didn’t say it was an easy thing to achieve. I said it’s a dream I have.

      Probably a pipe dream given current political realities. it really would be nice, though, to have people that we’re voting for based on their merits. and not because of the other idiot’s objectionable qualities. “The lesser of 2 evils” voting style is exactly why we’re in this place.

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      • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sure,l it's a lovely idea, just that switching to 3-5 way races without changing the voting system of winner-takes-all would be worse.

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  • sorebuttfromsitting@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    same, but “ranked choice voting” is the reform i would prefer

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    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      ranked choice is one way to possibly get there.

      Another would be to force turn over with term limits. I mean, Mitch McConnell has been a senator for longer than I’ve been alive, and he’s only the thirteenth longest serving senator. hell, there’s a senator or two that predate the freaking CRA.

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      • sorebuttfromsitting@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        whether it’s “ranked choice” or “term limits” or “Supreme Court ethics”, can you fix any of this, in a Constitutional Framework?

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