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There are exactly two paths for humanity post singularity, the Adeptus Mechanicus, or a cyberpunk metaphor for capitalism where the author forgets to address that even becoming space fairing just within our own solar system would propel humanity to an effective post scarcity economy.

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Deceptichum@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’ll stick to The Culture thanks.

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- clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  If you ever became a Mind, would your name be something like Why, yes, I WILL shit post all day. Thanks for asking. ?
  
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DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
We already are post scarcity.

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- FleetingTit@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  No we’re not? Maybe with regards to food, but even that might change back with climate change.
  
  Also oil.
  
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  - DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Post-scarcity is a state where all basic needs can be met with minimal human labor. It is not a state where there is no scarcity at all, but rather a theoretical productivity point where, say, the average worker could produce three, four, maybe even five times more goods and services than they consume over their lifetime.
    
    Generally speaking, GDP per working hour compared to the average wage is considered one of the best (simple) methods of measuring this. Makes sense, right? If the average worker produces goods worth five times more than the average wage, one worker could support four other people.
    
    Would you like to take a guess at what the current GDP per working hour of the average American or average European worker is?
    
    Hint: I’m bringing up because it helps my case.
    
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    crapwittyname@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Not op but I would very much like to know the figure and the source, because I want as many people to know about this as possible
    
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pearable@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I think artificial scarcity can be effective even in a space fairing society.

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- PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yeah but that’s only possible in a system where only a few entities are in total control of the space fairing, otherwise anyone could just go find their own unclaimed asteroid or comet to strip down for parts and come back with the entire net worth of a country.
  
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  - crapwittyname@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    A society where only a few entities are in total control of space exploration is literally where we live, right now.
    Space is hard. You need incredibly long supply chains and tons of bespoke parts, materials, infrastructure and experience just to get a few kg to a low orbit. All of those things, and the means and contacts to procure those things, are in the hands of the elite, and they’re not letting go.
    For a person or small collective to be able to independently carry out space missions would need a complete overhaul of our society to the point where it’s semi-utopian.
    
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