Because one way or another, people seeing “eating meat” as not being a moral issue either don’t understand the moral implications of it (industrial livestock farming for the most part) or don’t care about it, and I suspect cognitive dissonance is doing the heavy lifting in the latter case.
People eat meat because they don’t value animal lives like human lives. You can make a moral argument against that, and you’d have a good case for it, but it’s not cognitively dissonant.
They don’t care. I don’t think you are wrong for caring, just that you aren’t being realistic. The life of a chicken has little value for 99% of people.
Everyone has a line between life that’s of value and life that isn’t. For some people chickens aren’t on the same side as them, for some nothing is on the same side as them. There are extremes that are easy to consider insane or immoral, but things start to get different shades of grey once you get away from the edges.
I was going to become vegan if I couldn’t handle personally raising and slaughtering an animal. Turns out… I can. These goats eat a bunch of grass and weeds. I can totally ice one and turn him into tacos a couple of times a year and it’s pretty much environmentally neutral.
You are just contributing to my point. See all the conditions you needed to have net to consider eating meat morally neutral there? Yeah, doesn’t apply to industrial livestock farming.
StabbingSky@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
You didn’t answer the question
VeganBtw@piefed.social 1 day ago
Well how deep do you want to go?
Because one way or another, people seeing “eating meat” as not being a moral issue either don’t understand the moral implications of it (industrial livestock farming for the most part) or don’t care about it, and I suspect cognitive dissonance is doing the heavy lifting in the latter case.
cattywampas@lemmy.world 1 day ago
People eat meat because they don’t value animal lives like human lives. You can make a moral argument against that, and you’d have a good case for it, but it’s not cognitively dissonant.
VeganBtw@piefed.social 22 hours ago
Yep, but I have yet to find a single person that would way that eating meat is not a moral issue if they know about industrial livestock farming.
Grimy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They don’t care. I don’t think you are wrong for caring, just that you aren’t being realistic. The life of a chicken has little value for 99% of people.
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 23 hours ago
Everyone has a line between life that’s of value and life that isn’t. For some people chickens aren’t on the same side as them, for some nothing is on the same side as them. There are extremes that are easy to consider insane or immoral, but things start to get different shades of grey once you get away from the edges.
VeganBtw@piefed.social 1 day ago
It is exactly my point, no?
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Aren’t you the guy that criticises parents for feeding their children meat despite having no kids or any background in pediatric nutrition?
VeganBtw@piefed.social 1 day ago
What? Nope. Even if I was, what is your point? What if pediatric nutritionists told you children don’t need meat to be fit and healthy?
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I was going to become vegan if I couldn’t handle personally raising and slaughtering an animal. Turns out… I can. These goats eat a bunch of grass and weeds. I can totally ice one and turn him into tacos a couple of times a year and it’s pretty much environmentally neutral.
VeganBtw@piefed.social 19 hours ago
You are just contributing to my point. See all the conditions you needed to have net to consider eating meat morally neutral there? Yeah, doesn’t apply to industrial livestock farming.
Grimy@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I think the issue is more about the quality of life before the slaughtering. Your hand raised goats probably have a pretty good life, goat wise.