Comment on Im not conservative enough to be a liberal

• zoloftt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  In the USA liberal is the term used to describe progressives. I believe that’s what they mean.

  Any Joe Schmoe on the street in the USA will use it that way. They do not know the dictionary/philosophical definition of the term, that people on Lemmy beat on relentlessly.

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  • SarahValentine@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    In the USA liberal is the term used to describe progressives.

    No we don’t. We use that to describe democrats who pretend to lean left while being conservative in all but name. Actual progressives get called other things like anarchists, dirty commies, or unamerican.

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    • untorquer@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Don’t forget the most damning and horrific title of “socialist”

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    • CptOblivius@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Basically in the Midwest anyone who is not conservative/GOP is called liberal. From center to Marx himself, all libs. It is confusing being on Lemmy where classic liberalism is used.

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      • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Neo-liberalism as well. The foundation of discussion of politics is so uprooted it takes an entire other discussion to explain and use proper terminology.

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    • zoloftt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      K

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  • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    bullshit. I hang out in progressives circles, every single American progressive world be insulted if I they are called liberal.

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    • zoloftt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      K

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      • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Liberals are conservatives, they want the status quo. Progressives seek to fix broken liberal policies and structures.

        There is this thing where conservatives call Democratic people liberals as a pejorative. This is nonsense though as most conservatives very much support liberal structures like the system of law.

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  • JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The people this meme is talking about typically would not consider themselves progressive either. That it is a flavor of liberal

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    • 2ndDegreeOWO@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Take it easy on him – he can’t imagine anyone being further left than a ‘progressive’.

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  • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Just because someone is using a term with its own meanings and definition horribly incorrectly doesn’t mean it’s acceptable to perpetrate it.

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    • zoloftt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      My god, I’m merely explaining the original comment someone else made.

      I know the pedantry is expected, but maybe we can take a step back and read intent before smashing faces into our respective keyboards?

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  • trojanbark@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The rest of the world uses the actual dictionary definition. “America uses its own definition so that must be more correct” is pretty damn yankee

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    • zoloftt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Never argued that it was more correct…

      I’m merely explaining the original comment someone else made.

      I know the pedantry is expected, but maybe we can take a step back and read intent before smashing faces into our respective keyboards?

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  • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    No, liberals actively fight against progressives in the US.

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