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I don’t think so. Yes, the US is very racist in a lot of ways, but the reason Harris lost was because the Biden admin failed to do anything to substantially improve anyone’s life, and she didn’t appear credibly different. Biden was elected purely over dissatisfaction with Trump, but that wasn’t enough for a second win. We are in the same place right now. Dems won on dissatisfaction, but they’ll need to deliver results to win again in 2028.

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BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The reson Harris lost was a dogshit planning with a cancer stricken candidate as vehicle. From the current perspective it looks like she was counting on Biden winning and then leaving the position due to health issues.

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uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
We already had a term with Trump, and knew how that worked out. On the campaign trail, Trump also said what he intended to do. His dictator for a day fantasies made his malevolence super clear. His promises were entirely implausible. (E.g. I Will end the Ukraine conflict in the first week.)

And then there was project 2025 which described how the Republican party planned to dismantle federal regulatory bodies and neuter federal elections.

No. They said so. #IVotedForThis — They wanted to see brown children back in cages again. They wanted a Schutzstaffel to disappear the undesirables. They didn’t care the patrician class was going to plunder the US treasury and its credit.

Of the severity-seven million American voters in who chose Trump, hundreds, maybe might be ignorant idiots, but most of them were malevolent. They still are.

To be fair, they’re also under the influence of a massive far-right propaganda machine that dominates social media and television viewership. FOX News uses the same brainwashing techniques that were used on US soldiers in Korea.

I understand the Democratic party postmortem suggested it was more benign issues, (trans athletes) but then I’m pretty sure that part of the party is captured and controlled opposition. They have cause to present a biased analysis.

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- BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  I understand the Democratic party postmortem suggested it was more benign issues, (trans athletes)
  
  Nobody cares about trans athletes. Harris lost because she never touched important stuff. Yes most of the people agree that abortion should be right of every woman. NO this is NOT an issue that will sway their votes one way or another. Average US citizen doesn’t care about war in Ukraine. But they do care about Epstein files. And all they got from Biden was 5 years of silence.
  
  My only conclusion is that dems live in their own echo chamber.
  
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- electric_nan@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  You’re describing what motivates Trump’s base. They are in a cult, but they don’t win elections on their own. Believe it or not (and I don’t like it either), most people just care about their own lives.
  
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  - uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Trump’s base are low-information, low-education voters. The rest of Americans should have actually seen Trump is a monster and should not be entrusted with power.
    
    To be fair, most Democrats polled identify as moderate or centrist Democrats but then they agree with the main DSA positions that moderate Democratic officials stand against.
    
    To paraphrase something that Jamelle Bouie recently said, The American people voted in a madman. And they’re going to have to collectively ask themselves some difficult questions about their intent, and even their capacity to self-govern.
    
    I have every reason to be pessimistic.
    
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    Test_Tickles@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    They did. 1/3 of eligible voters chose hate and rascim. 1/3 said said anyone but Trump. And almost all of the remaining 1/3 saw the same racist pedophile who straight up told us what he was going to do. They looked at the malevolent evil he represented, weighed out the pros and cons of him being reelected and rather than vote against him, they decided that him winning was acceptable.
    If that 1/3 of the country had voted for anyone else, then you might be able to say that they just couldn’t agree on who to vote for, and didn’t like her politics or the Biden administration or whatever. But that’s not what they did. They decided that what he represented was acceptable.
    
    You don’t just find that level of hate ”acceptable" without having enough of your own hate to make it not seem that bad.
    
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  - WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Most people also treat everything as not real and inconsequential, other than what benefits them.
    
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