Comment on Elections Have Consequences

queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I didn’t see any anti-trans ballot initiatives; re the sports initiatives, trans can still compete whenever they’d like.

  They just don’t get to pick their team. Like everybody else.

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  • DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    here’s one.

    if you can’t see how “forced genital inspections” isn’t blatantly anti-trans i’m not really sure how to help you. this is going to result in the tiny number of transgender girls in sports being kicked or shamed off their teams, while simultaneously making things very uncomfortable for all the cis girls who will also be forced to undergo regular genital inspections. and for what?

    the fact that these passed, in supposedly “woke” states, is not only awful in and of itself, but also sets a terrifying precedent for things to come.

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    • Carrot@lemmy.today ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Just to prevent misinformation, this hasn’t passed yet. It’s still to close to call, and King County, the most progressive county with the most people, have only had half their votes counted. The rest of the counties also have 25-50% of their votes left to count. And late-counted votes are usually from mail-in votes, which past years show are primarily Democrat votes in Washington.

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    • fipto@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      “opponents of the initiative say…”

      yeah, people say a lot of things. but sex can be tested using a cheek swab.

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  • KimLuff@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Go away with your weird, annoying passive aggressive conservative bullshit.

    I like reality, where trans women can play sports fairly with cis women because every study that relies on measurements (like real grown ups use) shows that trans women should absolutely compete on the womens and trans mens on the mens.

    But for me, it’s deeper than that because frankly enbies deserve to play a game. You’re lame for defending stupid sports scholarships and the entire “school sports ecosystem”. These are all childrens games. The fact you talk with so much vitriol about trans people because of a game shows you have USELESS priorities.

    Trans rights are human rights.

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    • Tabooki2@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Unfortunately women athletes disagree with you

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      • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Who? That one swimmer who tied for 5th and threw a tempter tantrum that she had to share her 5th place finish with someone?

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      • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You speak for all women athletes?

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      • Statfish@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Hey, hey! I’m a woman athlete, and I think you should stfu. Trans rights are human rights.

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      • KimLuff@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Plenty of people disagree with plenty of things. I don’t care about some popularity contest, I care about what is factually morally correct. Trans people deserve to play sports in an environment that’s as fair as it is for anyone else.

        IMO all the stakes should be lowered and everything should just be coed.

        But since we can’t have nice things then yeah the science says that taking feminizing HRT evens the playing field between cis and trans women. I didn’t make the rules, cis people did, but now that those rules validate and grace trans people with respect for their gender cis folk want to change things. Not to actually be fair but to humiliate trans people. It’s so hurtful, cynical and transparently hateful

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  • bequirtle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    My state passed a ballot measure defining sex as whatever appears on your birth certificate. Not only anti-trans, but ignores intersex people or anyone with an error on their certificate.

    Note how they always ignore intersex people, because acknowledging their existence is incompatible with a ridiculous binary worldview

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    • StabbingSky@lemmy.zip ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There was an episode of King of the Hill that’s loosely about this, although on the flip side.

      The state fucks up and puts F as Hank’s sex on his DL, and he has to jump through massive hoops to get it fixed.

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  • queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And this logic is exactly the same as forcing us to use the men’s changing rooms, the men’s bathrooms, and sending us to men’s prison.

    The goal is to eradicate us.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They just don’t get to pick their team.

    Neither does their prospective coach, though.

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  • mrpxilo@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We’re a culture that has influential athletes advertise gambling apps to kids on social media. I 100% guarantee these policies aren’t about the sanctity of sports nor protecting the children. It’s definitely other values that are driving people to fight this hard to legislate trans people.

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