Comment on After all, why not?

• boonhet@lemmy.zip ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They’re also mostly for kids, who shouldn’t be vaping anyway. They should be banned.

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  • Stormy@thelemmy.club ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Idk, I’m a full adult and like them. They’re yummy.

    I like the fruit flavored nicotine pouches too.

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    • Lennard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t like vaping, but you do you. But please at least get a vape with replaceable pods. You’re basically throwing away an entire phone battery each time

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      • Stormy@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I like them and I like vaping and the fruity flavors, but I don’t buy or use anymore don’t worry.

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    • crapwittyname@feddit.uk ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Get a refillable vape. You only need to change the coil, and it’s recyclable. You can get all the same flavours. It’s also cheaper as well as not being environmentally destructive.

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  …and your lungs

  Sure they are probably better than cigarettes but the bar is extremely low

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  • endless_nameless@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m not one to complain about what harms people choose to expose themselves to. Everyone owns their own body. The environmental damage effects us all though.

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I personally don’t want to smell your substance use

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      • endless_nameless@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You think I’m advocating for people to smoke in public? You think I’m advocating for people to smoke at all? Why don’t you re-read my comment and pay close attention to my wording.

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    • affenlehrer@feddit.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It makes health insurance more expensive for everyone, at least here in Germany

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      • endless_nameless@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It is crucial to draw a distinction between direct and indirect harms, tangible and abstract harms. Does the problem lie in the individual’s right to bodily autonomy and self determination? Or does it lie in the design of a system that forces the consequences of individuals’ decisions to be diffused across the entire population? I don’t really know, but it raises a lot of questions. Is it fair to punish those who don’t make the choice to smoke? Is it fair to treat those who make the choice to smoke differently? Discussion around smoking induces a very, very strong bias.

        Consider something else: Should I be made to feel guilty for the economic impact if I choose to cut myself with a knife vs. if someone else chooses to cut me with a knife? Obviously, any compassionate person would be more focused on what caused the decision. Anybody would know in this scenario that inducing guilt over the economics of self harm is fucked. Now, if someone else cut me, the obvious way to repair the situation would be to punish the perpetrator.

        Do you see what I’m getting at? You shouldn’t be mad at the smoker. Generally, nobody chooses to harm themselves. They misunderstood the risks, fell for it, and got addicted. You should be mad at the cigarette companies for not paying restitution for their societal harm. Maybe smokers should be held responsible for those they spread the social contagion of smoking to, but they are in no way culpable for the indirect, abstract harms you perceive. They aren’t choosing to cost you money, your government is choosing it by not holding the perpetrator responsible.

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  • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You can cut your finger off at the 2nd knuckle or the 3rd knuckle.

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