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• Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s what propaganda does. China isn’t a free democracy.

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  • NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m sure you know better than the actual Chinese people polled. Thanks for setting the record straight.

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    • DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      and when North Koreans say the Kim gang are great, we should believe them.

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      • NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I believe them more than the obvious bullshit propaganda coming from the country that literally genocided them, lmao.

        You believe shit like every man in the country has to get the same haircut?

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    • Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Some times it takes an outsider to see the problems, and I’m not alone in seeing massive democratic problems in China. You don’t know who participated in that poll (and neither do I) was it random people on the street or pro party people? With the amount of surveillance in China, I probably would think twice before speaking against the party.

      The communist party has the sole power in China, while other parties technically are legal they haven’t got any power higher than city/regional level.

      And then there’s the corruption, they have massive problems with that.

      And before you go “hurr durr other countries bad” yes other countries do have problems and some may be worse than China, but that doesn’t legitimise Chinas government.

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      • NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They lifted 800 million people out of poverty in 40 years and 90% of Chinese adults own their own home. They haven’t dropped a bomb in 50 years. They produce more solar panels in a year than the rest of the world has combined so far.

        Yeah. There’s a lot to like.

        Also, more data from a “better” source.

        …harvard.edu/…/understanding-ccp-resilience-surve…

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      • impairedimperator@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Tankie ideology treats China/USSR/North Korea the way that MAGA ideology treats trump.

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    • Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I see what you’re getting at but you only need to glance at the US to know that a lot of citizens of a country do NOT know WTF they’re talking about when it comes to their leadership.

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      • NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You think there might be a bit of an education gap between the two countries looool?

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        no see americans are exceptional. everyone else does it different

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• nullspace@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No country is perfect and that graph is highlighting who’s allowed to say that about their own country.

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  • NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You think? You don’t think it has anything to do with the historically unprecedented rise in standard of living?

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    • nullspace@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That may explain some of the positive results, but I think my original comment is a more plausible explanation as to why one single country would be such an outlier in your graph.

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      • NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You think the Chinese thought police are able to keep over a billion people speaking positively about their country?

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