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- Comment on name too hard? brain go ouch! Vote red. 1 week ago:
If you don’t vote for Newsom, Vance might win.
Don’t think, vote—for Newsom.
Support the Gaza Genocide.
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Are you saying that the British shouldn’t have voted Labour before WWI, or Canadians vote NDP?
As long as progressive Democrats vote for centrist or right-of-center candidates, the party will have no incentive to become more progressive. If anything it incentivizes the party to be more centrist or right-of-center.
As long as self-identified libertarians or semi-libertarians vote Republican lest the Democrats win, Republican Presidents and major Republican leaders will be pro-war: pro-war in the Middle East, pro-Israel, pro-war on drugs, pro-war in sex, anti-immigration, and pro-military-industrial complex, and FWIW to libertarians, pro-debt.
Also, look at election results:
wp:2024 United States presidential election#Results by state
state Trump Harris Stein Oliver California 6 081 697 9 276 179 167 814 66 662 Utah 883 818 562 566 8222 16 902
If 3 million Californian Harris voters instead voted for Stein, Harris would have still won California—but that wouldn’t matter as she still lost the election.
If 25% of Utahn Trump voters instead voted for Oliver, Trump would have still won Utah and Utahns would still have Trump’s higher cost of living, higher fuel prices, the Forever War continuing, and record high debt, and hours of listening to a vain mean-spirited old bigot lie and blabber on.
If 15% of Utahn Trump voters instead voted for Harris, Trump would have, again, still won Utah.
If 25% instead voted for Harris, Utah would have gone to Harris, along with its 6 Electors, meaning she’d get a total of not 226, but 232—meanwhile Trump’s 312 would go down to 306.
Even if she became President, presumably there would still be the high debt, Central Americans kicked out of US, and Harris attempting to explain continued US support of Israel’s Gaza genocide.
So if you’re going to vote, you might as well vote your heart and for at least some principles.
but please, be a good partisan Democrat and downvote this reply and make Newsom smile.
- Comment on name too hard? brain go ouch! Vote red. 1 week ago:
Civilization began when we stopped being hunter gatherers and started being sedentary with agriculture. Those structures you’re referring to were being built thousands of years after civilization began.
IIUC, civilization started with cities, or at least towns; just as history began with writing.
One could argue it goes even deeper; when we stopped being immediate-return hunter gatherers and switched to delayed-return hunter gatherers, then the concept of elites began, which is the root of individualism, the cancer that led to the beginning of civilization.
I tend to think there was some overlap. e.g. there were/still are indigenous in the Amazon who while still hunting and gathering, also engage in agriculture, including slash-and-burn; meanwhile, many farmers also hunted; and let’s not forget herders. Wealth wasn’t only land one held, but also how much livestock one owned.
Elites probably resulted with larger groups, which might have been the result of technological advances, such as more farming, as well as specialization of labor. There was also gender-specific roles. Generally it was the men who hunted, while the women gathered, maybe butcher the carcasses, and made winter clothes, while rearing the children they bore.
Perhaps sometimes a band would raid other bands, then later simplify it to extortion. Consensus gave way to either majority rule and/or elites. Merited leaders gave way to hereditary leaders.
Your pizza story is irrelevant because in my worldview things like money and material wealth and items that are not collectively owned and shared would not exist; now there would be personal possessions to help in tasks like hunting or maybe ornamentation, but anything that is for the good of the group would be shared.
So perhaps what you’re kind of saying is that the group of 10 would have $50, and they’d discuss over how it should be spent.
Also, are you suggesting that humanity should return to hunting, or perhaps small agrarian groups who are short distances away from the food they grow?
In traditional hunter-gatherer societies, rather than relying on a moneyed economy or barter economy, they usually had what is called a gift economy. In this, your relationship with others is one of the most important things, and contributes to the cohesion of the group. It builds trust. One of the ways to do this is to always give each other gifts.
How big would these societies be?
- Comment on name too hard? brain go ouch! Vote red. 1 week ago:
The odds are that either the Republican candidate, or the Republican-lite candidate, will win.
(Was Obama much better than McCain or Romney?)
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This doesn’t negate the fact that I value the good of the collective over the good of an individual. Individualism is what led to civilization which is what led to the destruction of our planet and our separation from it. Individualism is the cancer that must be eradicated.
Wasn’t it collectivism that lead to civilization, with gangs of workers dragging blocks up ramps to build pyramids, while others labored in the fields to feed themselves and these gangs, learning little on how to fend for themselves in the wild if they desired to escape their conditions?
Our planet is not destroyed. The detonation of every nuke made by humanity couldn’t destroy our planet, or even all life on it.
The rights of individuals is more important than any nation.
To me this is like saying “dog poop tastes better than cat poop.” Nations should not exist and individualism should not exist.
Maybe your analogy is better for differentiation of the varying kinds of nationalism. Some might say the same of collectivism. Try this: “Eurocommunism is better than Stalinism in much the way that a shit-sandwich is better than just plain shit.”
Of course, some Indigenous rights groups and others might defend nationhood.
Now just to be clear, I am a huge fan of individuality, just not individualism.
Noun
individuality (countable and uncountable, plural individualities)
.1. (uncountable) The characteristics that contribute to the differentiation or distinction of someone or something from a group of otherwise comparable identity.
.2. (countable) A person.
(Noun)
individualism (countable and uncountable, plural individualisms)
.1. The tendency for a person to act without reference to others, particularly in matters of style, fashion or mode of thought.
Antonyms: collectivism, statism
.2. The moral stance, political philosophy, or social outlook that promotes independence and self-reliance of individual people, while opposing the interference with each person’s choices by society, the state, or any other group or institution.
.3. (logic) The doctrine that only individual things are real.
.4. (philosophy) The doctrine that nothing exists but the individual self.
Synonym: solipsism
When I think of individualism, I don’t think of it necessitating being anti-social or even wt:asocial, but rather that no one can tell you what to do, at least not without your consent.
Let’s say 10 people each have $5 and each wants a pizza. $5 will get each 2 slices, but $25 would get a pizza with 50% more area than 10 slices combined, and $50 would get one with twice the area, plus 10 cans of soft drinks.
The problem is toppings. 7 want cheese, 2 want extra cheese, and 1 wants no cheese (maybe due to dairy allergies and/or wt:thon is a vegan). 3 want pineapple, 3 don’t. and 6 are okay with it. Ditto mushrooms. A few would forgo their drinks for extra toppings, while one would forgo pizza for 3 cans.
So they negotiate for a while.
6 come to a close agreement, 3 would rather just get slices, and one would rather keeps thons $5.
Presumably under collectivism, it’s majority rule and the 6 take the $20 of the 4, add it to their $30, and every one gets an equal amount (or maybe the 4 get less as they opposed the collective, and those who supported the collective get more: no one goes hungry, but each of the 6 eats and drinks a little more);
while under individualism, the 6 get the pizza they agreed on and as a group they paid for; while the other the 3 get their slices; and 1 gets no pizza nor drink but keeps thons $5.
- Comment on name too hard? brain go ouch! Vote red. 1 week ago:
According to the US census, there are 76 million multilingual people, 23% of the population. In March 2025 the White House released an executive order declaring, “…it is in America’s best interest for the Federal Government to designate one — and only one — official language” (The White House). In 2021 there were 5.3 million students receiving English Language Learner services.[104] Additionally, Net immigration rates have drastically increased since 2021 from 247,000 to 2.8 million in 2024 (US census).
Trump wants to keep Americans unilingual.
- Comment on name too hard? brain go ouch! Vote red. 1 week ago:
Idk: I never had a Facebook account.
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Kal-El the Great!
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I wonder if he’s a millionaire.
As of 2023, Oliver resides in a suburb of Atlanta.[1][16][66] He said he has a “deep faith in the gospel”.[67] He is openly gay.[68][69]
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Who are you voting for?
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FWIW,
Michael S. Rogers (born 1959), director of the National Security Agency
Mike Rogers (ice hockey) (born 1954), Canadian hockey player
Michael Rogers (actor) (born 1970), Canadian television and film actor
Michael Rogers (publisher) (born 1963), American publisher, fundraiser, gay rights leader, and former blogger
- Comment on name too hard? brain go ouch! Vote red. 2 weeks ago:
I value the good of the collective over the good of the individual though
The collective is made up of individuals.
Also I’m not American so my opinion doesn’t matter
Your opinion matters, however small it might be, and is probably better than that of many Americans.
The rights of individuals is more important than any nation.
- Comment on name too hard? brain go ouch! Vote red. 2 weeks ago:
America is a de facto 2-party state.
Voting for either of the 2 parties is a vote for the 2-party state.
- Comment on name too hard? brain go ouch! Vote red. 2 weeks ago:
Choose Freedom: vote Libertarian.
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Mee-Chee-gaan.
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The “El-” sounds like a title.
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Miguel Roh-ghers.
- Comment on Goteem 3 weeks ago:
wp:Property is theft (rd to Pierre-Joseph Proudhon#Private property and the state)
Property, in his view, is both theft and freedom. It is theft when one person owns the property that others need to survive. Property is theft when the person who owns it can own it without occupying it and can derive rent, income, and profit simply because they hold legal title
So if a person builds a house, and then rents it, that person is a thief, but if wt:thon sells it, that might be okay? Maybe don’t build houses you don’t intend to live in or give away, I suppose.
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Good point. I should think that over.
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Thanks. 😁
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Where would North Korea be without the USSR, and perhaps China?
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Is criticism of North Korea necessarily American propaganda?
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I presumed in your previous post that you were, at least somewhat, suggesting that by free healthcare, housing, and food meant equality and/communal ownership of property, which IIUC, is characteristic of leftism. I suggested that it merely meant the minimum for all people, in an otherwise mixed economy.
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That is an advocacy for leftism, which is another argument.
A wants to grow corn and soybeans on a patch of land because there will be a harvest in autumn; while B thinks hazelnuts are more lucrative and might even be less harmful to the environment; C says there’s enough food stored, so leave it fallow and maybe do some extraction, and thus save on costs and labor.
Presumably the leftist advocates that they should talk it out, and maybe reach an agreement, maybe use part of the land for each purpose.
The rightist might say the land should be divided by the three of them and see who competes better, and because each is doing what wt:thon wants, each will presumably give thons whole effort; nor does it negate voluntary cooperation: while many leftists want to abolish private property—“property is theft” and all of that (and besides “theft” of what? Theft of property? But property is theft.).
But again, free healthcare, housing, and food as a centrist, even liberal, policy doesn’t necessarily mean equal healthcare, housing, and food, just adequate, or adequate enough to curtail revolution. Presumably if all Russians and Chinese had adequate nutrition, places to sleep, and even basic health care (such as vaccines), neither Lenin nor Mao would have had much of a chance.
Presumably in the US relatively few starve, nor must be wet in the rain or freeze to death in the cold, and most got their covid-19 shots, hence it’s unlikely that the far left will take over the US anytime soon.
Yes, I can see it now:
2028, progressives will push for their candidates in the Democratic primaries, the moderates will win—maybe Gavin Newsom—and progressives will rally behind him because shit-lite isn’t as bad as shit, and I’ll be downvoted on Lemmy for advocating 3rd parties, and yet a centrist will be elected. People will talk about rank balloting and/or PPR, when such are against the 2-party state.
but I digress.
- Comment on Goteem 3 weeks ago:
I don’t.
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Do you think that such are necessarily leftist?
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Some might consider free healthcare, housing, and food to be the centrist policy.
The rich get houses and mansions, but the poor get free government apartments.
Two-tiered health care will help the rich, those very devoted to paying for their own health, and/or those who take measures in their personal lives to maintain good health; while the rest get government-paid health care.
The rich and/or those so particular-they’d-pay-over-30%-of-their-income-on-food get to dine on filet mignon, $60-a-loaf bread, and drink wp:Civet coffee (rd); while the poor get at least 3000 calories a day plus their RDA of micronutrients.
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We’re hated by many in the far left and far right.
You can’t please them all, I guess.
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.1. Any right-wing, authoritarian, nationalist ideology characterized by centralized, totalitarian governance, strong regimentation of the economy and society, and repression of criticism or opposition. [1922]
Bingo bango America is fascist, lol.
right-wing,
Presumably, many leftists consider centrists to be rightists, while many rightists consider centrists to be leftists.
authoritarian,
The US doesn’t seem to be too wt:authoritarian, at least compared to many other countries not generally described as authoritarian.
nationalist ideology
How many countries allow the public burning of its own flag?
characterized by centralized, totalitarian governance,
I don’t see that. Some states allow abortion, some don’t. Some have the death penalty, some don’t. etc.
strong regimentation of the economy
The US arguably has more free enterprise than many other countries.
and society,
Lots of American men have long hair.
and repression of criticism or opposition. [1922]
Trump’s anti-defamation suits against Bill Maher failed (and deservedly so).
Jon Stewart mocks Trump regularly (and rightly so).
I hate all governments by the way, some are definitely more worthy of scorn than others though.
I’m kinda agree with you there.
I think the governments of North Korea, the Islamic Republic of Iran, Iraq under Saddam Hussein, the Taliban, and Hamas (what were they thinking would have happened after that stupid stunt of theirs on 7 October 2023 (which, btw, was Putin’s 71st birthday)) are about as bad as the US government, if not worse?
The US has done and is doing lots of bad things, but I wouldn’t describe them as fascist.
Indeed, I think I remember watching a YouTube video where calling the US fascist somewhat minimizes what they did in the past. I suppose they’re right insofar that neither Franco’s Spain, Mussolini’s Italy, nor Pinochet’s Chile had millions of black slaves, nor stole millions of sq km of indigenous lands (though I suppose with Mussolini it wasn’t from a lack of trying).
It’s like the word “genocide”. Before I read the UN definition, I thought it was something like mass murdering millions. Now residential schools are considered genocide, while, IIUC, leftists such as BadEmpanada and Roger Waters deny a Uighur genocide.
We need new words, I suppose.
Do you think your time is best spent arguing about the government of a small island 90 miles off the coast of Florida that sends free doctors around the world, or the global hegemonic power that’s starving the children there to death, who’s also responsible for destabilizing the world for the last 80 years?
Isn’t Cuba the 2nd largest island in the Caribbean (and largest island nation)? If it was a US state it’d rank at 35th largest, pushing out Virginia; or bigger than Ireland (both ROC and NI combined) or Iceland—don’t be fooled by Mercator. 😁 🙂
Don’t a lot of US doctors work pro bono around the world?
Is the US banning food imports to Cuba (and why can’t Cuba feed itself as its density is less than 150/sq km)?
For much of the past 80 years, it seems the world has been relatively stable. Of course there was the cold war, but it never went to nuclear blows. After helping as an ally to disinfect Germany of much of its Nazi vermin, and Japan of much of its militarist vermin those countries have done pretty well. China grew from Mao, to Deng, to its current dictator (and Taiwan even more so), India got its independence, and now it has an ≥$5 trillion GDP.
- Comment on Goteem 3 weeks ago:
Right. So no countries ever reached communism. Glad we can agree.
What do you think about the governments of North Korea, the PRC, Cuba, Nicaragua, Maduro’s Venezuela, or the former USSR?
Oh man this is getting old. Give me the definition of fascism now, or the 14 tenets or whatever, and we can go through how the US fits most if not all of the markers, lol.
Noun
fascism (usually uncountable, plural fascisms)
.1. Any right-wing, authoritarian, nationalist ideology characterized by centralized, totalitarian governance, strong regimentation of the economy and society, and repression of criticism or opposition. [1922]
.1. (strictest sense) The ideology and practice of the 20th-century Italian movement from which this name came.
Coordinate terms: Francoism, Nazism
.2. (loosely, by extension, derogatory) Any system of strong autocracy or oligarchy usually to the extent of bending and breaking the law, race-baiting, and/or violence against largely unarmed populations.
.3. (figurative, derogatory) Any extreme reliance on or enforcement of rules and regulations.
Synonym: sticklerism
