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• invertedspear@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Conscription is bullshit. If your war is so unpopular to your people that they aren’t volunteering, then you shouldn’t be at war.

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  • bookmeat@fedinsfw.app ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tell that to Ukraine.

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    • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would say that if people don’t care about their country and don’t want to fight for it it’s OK for this country to lose a war.

      Back when I lived in Poland, if it was invaded I would be the first one to flee the country. Let the people that want to live there die for it… Now that I live in Spain, if anyone tried to invade, I would definitely join the fight. Well, maybe not if they invaded Catalonia but once they reached Murcia I would be on the front lines.

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  • vsg@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also, if there was a very great threat, people would enlist willingly, making conscription unnecessary.

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    • waterwasamistake@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You would have to believe that people are willing to sacrifice to protect their communities but people aren’t even willing to look at windmills to protect their communities from climate change. Which does not mean they don’t want to keep their community as it is, they might just be to afraid and/or selfish to join themselves.

      If people were guided by some intristic “goodness” we wouldn’t have such a shit society in the first place.

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  • waterwasamistake@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Meh people aren’t really known to do the “right” thing if they would we wouldn’t have had war in the first place. Also people might be fully supportive of a war but don’t want to get their hands dirty themselves.

    The natural conclusion would be that any country forcing its people to fight will probably have an advantage over any country that doesn’t and if that country overtakes you you get conscripted anyway.

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  • stepan@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yep

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• RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s a funny story here in the US about that. We were trying to pass the Equal Rights Act (ERA) - equal pay for equal work, and some Republican tried to tank it by putting in the bill that women would also be subject to the draft - apparently he figured that was so horrifying it would sink it. Supporters just said “yeah, that seems fair, good idea” and he had to scramble to take that wording out because he had so misjudged the situation. Still managed to sink the bill though:(

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• gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That one isn’t a feminist law, that’s a fascist one, under the fasc ideal “women are too weak to fight!”

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  • Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s less “women are too weak” and more “the point if war is to kill off excess young men so there’s more young women available for powerful older men”

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    • gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It can be both

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    • myyass@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Like it or not that women will guaranteed face harsh realities.

      Iraq.

      A line of “Iraqi military” taking turns at a boy. Nothing you can do about it.

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      • gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        what

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  • IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve always thought that it’s more ‘we need more women than men to repopulate our country after the war’ as us men are nearly useless when making new life to this planet. But obviously that idea is ‘a bit’ dated too today.

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    • gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It can be all 3 things.

      But no matter what, it’s outdated

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• rabber@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Women can have kids so in times of war men are seen as disposables. You can’t rebuild a nation without women but you basically can without men

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