Comment on 10 reasons why we should move Israel to Utah
AnalogAllamma@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Fun facts about Mormonism no one ever talks about (not even the Jews, and Mormons themselves):
If you’re baptized Mormon, you’re are adopted into the house of Israel, thus becoming an “adopted” Jew. Organizations like the JDL are well aware of this Mormon belief, yet they don’t seem to care, or maybe they do but choose not to publicize it. For what reason?
Elohim is the name of the Mormon God, although his name is not to be uttered (oops!). The Jewish God bears the same name, amongst various other names, depending on which Rabbi’s argument is presented.
Mormons believe in the city of Zion, as the New Jerusalem, to established on the American continent before near the time of the new mellenium. It’s both a literal and figurative belief.
Elohim is the name of the Mormon God, although his name is not to be uttered (oops!). The Jewish God bears the same name, amongst various other names, depending on which Rabbi’s argument is presented.
If I recall correctly, the Jewish god’s name will change to Elohim once the Messiah arrives. Mormons believe that the Messiah already arrived in Missouri, so they call him Elohim, but to Jews he’s still Yahweh.
Elohim is the name of the Mormon God, although his name is not to be uttered (oops!). The Jewish God bears the same name, amongst various other names, depending on which Rabbi’s argument is presented.
El was head of multitheist pantheon of all Levant tribes. Elohim just means El the greatest. Allah is the same reference. Abraham would name his children IsraELites. Moses, the foundation of Zionism, would later declare that there is no god above Yahweh (one of El’s minor sons charged with small Iraelite tribe affairs) with orders to go conquer all who disapprove of Moses killing them. The entire basis of monotheism is a song by King David’s (non priest) musical director where Yahweh sentences to death all of the other gods. Though the incohrence of most not believing turns into his mother Asherah to become his wife, and then stories of Yahweh’s resentment of shrines to his mother/wife.
Elohim vs Yahweh to Jews is a point of confusion, but reconciled to manufacture coherence for Jews as the same God that Christianity/Romans also adopted. Jesus’s heavenly father, and general humanist principles, suited El over Yahweh (warmongering genocide) as a descriptor. So, a problem with our religious order is taking the same chosen people Yahweist Moses, and declaring new chosen people based on victories and destruction of Israelite temples, or later manifest destiny fabrications.
Yahweh is at best an extremely impotent god. Moses/exodus claims that Yahweh lied to Abraham to pretend to be El. The only possible timeline of Noah is 5100BC, and then having any traceable lineage from Noah to Abraham can’t be that long. Moses is 1600 BC, and eventual 1010BC King David, ruled over a small shithole of Jerusalem/Judah, and paid tribute (biblical confirmation) to Philisitines that were the ones who actually drove Egypt out of Judah. So an all powerful god that predetermines all outcomes, is just a pathethic loser that led Israelites to declare their empire of shit under vassal control of Philistines, after 4000 years, to be a crown achievement of that all powerful god.
JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
Additionally:
Utah is not significant to the religion, it was just far enough away from the established US government to stop being persecuted long enough for them to drop polygamy.
The actual holy land is Missouri, which is the location of the Garden of Eden.
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 1 week ago
What is it with “chosen people” religions literally choosing the shitiest places on earth to be their “new Eden”
It’s either, desert,desert, armpit of America, etc. like, has anyone looked at like Hawaii or Cabo and went, “damn this place is nice, this is almost like it could be the garden of Eden!” No they are like. “Look! Sand and bugs! Must be heaven!”
LuannePlatter@infosec.pub 1 week ago
It’s because these aren’t actually “holy” places, they’re just places where they can hide their cults while avoiding law and taxes. Abusers have more power when they can isolate their victims.
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Sir, this is a shitpost community.
~though i agree with you 1000%~
adarza@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
in fact, the merger of the two great religions has already happened there… in springfield.
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cabela’s and bass pro shops.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 1 week ago
It was until everyone else in Missouri got so sick of them trying to marry teenage girls they literally rallied the state militia to force the Mormons out.
Then, in a complete coincidence, god changed his mind to the spot where Brigham young got tired of a sore ass in a mule cart and said “this salty desert is better than another week to the ocean”