I mean you can also run a generative modal locally using green energy, but try going into fuckai and telling them that.
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Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Star Trek is also a post scarcity society and they aren’t using water to run the models. IP ownership in the Federation is still a thing though, so long as the genAI isn’t using copyrighted material, it’s fine.
The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 5 days ago
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 days ago
well yeah, some people care about the entire shit being built on theft. why wouldn’t you care about that?
oh they didn’t steal from you. that’s why you don’t care.
The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
It doesn’t have to be built on theft. And what are your thoughts on piracy?
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 days ago
it doesn’t have to, but it always seems to be lol.
book eating, literally stealing texts from future generations to feed llms.
my thoughts on piracy? I don’t pirate shit. And I certainly don’t rip off entire chunks of humanity - the painters, musicians, authors etc., wholescale like llms do.
you really just assume everyone is stealing therefor it’s ok? how sad.
Evotech@lemmy.world 4 days ago
They are just going to start discussing the ethics of stolen training data
The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
- What are their thoughts on piracy?
- Have they ever saved an image they saw online to use in a different place (wallpaper, repost the meme, etc.)? What is so different from someone using it to train their own model which they use for themselves?
ChocolateFrostedSugarBombs@lemmy.world 4 days ago
It’s a good thing that what kind of energy it runs on is the only problem with the technology and that we can cheaply generate the necessary amount of power at home.
The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 4 days ago
I mean, you certainly don’t need any more energy than you would for video games, for most of the stuff people are looking to use at home.
It is possible to generate it, but even if someone can’t, I don’t see the fuckai people yelling at game Devs for increasing requirements for so little gain, or at GPU Devs for not focusing enough on the draw power of GPUs. In fact, just 1 or 2 years ago I think, NVIDIA released a GPU generation that was only a little more powerful but had a lot more energy efficiency, and they got shat on by the internet because it wasn’t powerful enough - no cared about the lower power draw.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 days ago
oh yeah running a rack of gpus full out for inference and whatnot is exactly like playing some games.
buuuullll SHIT.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 4 days ago
You can run it at home on your own local machine using solar power.
Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The part about using real actors and people in simulated performances in movies after they’re dead is the same in holodeck and current cg/ai. Stephen Hawking was used, the real person consented to be on the tv show but the in show historical figure did not.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 days ago
There’s a difference between making a movie about an actor or other famous person and inserting an actor’s likeness into a movie that didn’t need it. If you become part of the cultural zeitgeist, people will talk about you. For an historic example of using someone’s likeness to sell a movie, you can look at Plan 9 from Outer Space and using footage of Bela Lugosi after he had died. That’s still considered bad taste. A new example is using including Tupac Shakur in the new Yakuza game AI or not, people aren’t exactly excited, but we’ll see what they do with it. Probably shouldn’t have used him in the trailer at least. There’s some gray areas with legacy characters in an on going franchise and whether or not you can find a look alike. I didn’t have a big issue with Tarkin being in Rouge One despite Peter Cushing being dead.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 days ago
bet they aren’t built on LLMs either
phx@lemmy.world 4 days ago
There are a few episodes where various people mention putting a lot of time and wish into building holodeck sims. I’m guessing it’s more like having a futuristic version of Unity/UnrealE/etc, with a common asset pool and an AI assisted interface
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 days ago
don’t care. the future isn’t llms.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 days ago
For budgetary reason, they’re never that outlandish or creative sets, but I really liked the irony of the Captain Proton being a reoccurring thing