Comment on I'm right and the other vegans are wrong

• CADmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Have you ever kept bees? They make a ton of honey in excess of what they need.

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  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And my cat always keeps an excess of food in her bowl. If I fed her only the amount she actually ate, she would just eat less. These are evolved survival behaviors.

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    • CADmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Right because cats and bees are the same thing. Are you a bot that gets paid to make vegans look stupid?

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      • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Compared to all life on Earth cats and bees are almost the exact same thing. I’m not a bot, I’m a human with ideas that are apparently so challenging to your own that you immediately resort to ad hominem.

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• Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I know some people who keep bees and absolutely none of that is true if you take care of them properly. Bees will try to fill the space they are in with honeycomb even if it is well in excess of what they need because they are anticipating that the colony will grow, but if you harvest regularly and consistently the colony will not grow larger than can be supported by the honeycomb that is left behind.

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• guy@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  A quick web search tells me that bees don’t die when harvesting honey, unless you take more than they need to survive, too often and are careless when harvesting?

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  • alekwithak@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “google ai overview told me exactly what I wanted to hear so I’ve decided to look no further”

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    • fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m open to counter arguments

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    • bilb@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “i’ve invented a reason to dismiss what you posted and decided that’s a good enough reason not to think about it any further”

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      • alekwithak@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Also a good restatement of the comment I’m replying to, yes.

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    • guy@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well I tried to avoid sites which could be biased like beekeapersagainstvegans and honeyismurder, and this is the conclusion I could make. 🤷 What more do you want me to do, start my own honey farm and see what works and not?

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  • pitaya@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m don’t know much about beekeeping, but I could easily see large scale industry doing exactly that. I would have a hard time trusting them to be careful of the bees’ livelihood.

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    • guy@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Me neither lol. But if there’s ethical consumption there’s no need to abstain from all right?

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  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah all of those things sound pretty likely in most honey farming settings.

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