Comment on I'm right and the other vegans are wrong

AmyAye@nord.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The bees don’t want you to take their honey. They don’t make excess, they make what they need and we steal it and replace it with stuff that’s “just as good” according to us. Bees die in the process of harvesting honey.

  These are reasons that honey isn’t vegan.

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  • CADmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Have you ever kept bees? They make a ton of honey in excess of what they need.

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    • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And my cat always keeps an excess of food in her bowl. If I fed her only the amount she actually ate, she would just eat less. These are evolved survival behaviors.

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      • CADmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Right because cats and bees are the same thing. Are you a bot that gets paid to make vegans look stupid?

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  • Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I know some people who keep bees and absolutely none of that is true if you take care of them properly. Bees will try to fill the space they are in with honeycomb even if it is well in excess of what they need because they are anticipating that the colony will grow, but if you harvest regularly and consistently the colony will not grow larger than can be supported by the honeycomb that is left behind.

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  • guy@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A quick web search tells me that bees don’t die when harvesting honey, unless you take more than they need to survive, too often and are careless when harvesting?

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    • alekwithak@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “google ai overview told me exactly what I wanted to hear so I’ve decided to look no further”

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      • fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m open to counter arguments

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      • bilb@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “i’ve invented a reason to dismiss what you posted and decided that’s a good enough reason not to think about it any further”

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      • guy@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Well I tried to avoid sites which could be biased like beekeapersagainstvegans and honeyismurder, and this is the conclusion I could make. 🤷 What more do you want me to do, start my own honey farm and see what works and not?

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    • pitaya@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m don’t know much about beekeeping, but I could easily see large scale industry doing exactly that. I would have a hard time trusting them to be careful of the bees’ livelihood.

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      • guy@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Me neither lol. But if there’s ethical consumption there’s no need to abstain from all right?

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    • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah all of those things sound pretty likely in most honey farming settings.

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• fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Dang dude, turn on autocorrect

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  • AmyAye@nord.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would but then the phone is all “I replaced entire words 3 sentnces ago and didn’t tell you! Ha ha ha.”

    So fuck it, I will just take my typos.

    If there is a way to turn on autocorrect from like, 2019, before it was assy, I would take that.

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  • debil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    autpxprrext

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