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atro_city@fedia.io ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  No it’s not real, it’s being misrepresented. Eleanora is suspended for reasons nothing to do with her being trans. She’s a toxic piece of work who also happens to be trans, and is trying to make that into the reason.

  There are a number of transwomen in various positions in the party, including posts to be filled by women only.

  She was suspended for the comments she made about Iran which were blatantly anti-semitic (anti-zionist is fine, but she well and truly crossed the line).

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  • Artisian@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This would be compelling with sources; the OP explicitly disputes some of these points afaict.

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  • decolo@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    She may well be toxic but if that was the main reason she’s being removed, they should be up front about it. And not have a very terf seeming man involved in removing her.

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    • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      She was suspended (she hasnt yet been removed) because of a media post, not because she is toxic. I explicitly state that two lines below my opinion about her toxicity. Separate items.

      Are you deliberately misreading or just seeing what you expect to see ?

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      • decolo@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think my unwillingness to accept the party explanation is down to 2 factors:

        1. If the problem was bullying, or specific social media posts, or anything reasonable, that should be a perfect defense against transphobia. Unless the posts reveal protected information, there is no reason to hide behind process. The media is already reporting on it, so make this about the content not the candidate.

        2. Unless he’s had some dramatic change of heart, Kai is clearly a transphobe or sympathizer at best. If he’s running the suspension process, that’s one great reason to be skeptical of anything he says.

        I am willing to believe the candidate was difficult but edge cases are where we decide who we are as a society.

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  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What “antisemitic” thing are you talking about?

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    • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, that’s why I differentiated between anti zionist and anti-semitic, and yes I am very well aware of how anti-semitic has been used as a bludgeon against anyone critical of the Israeli genocide.

      So let’s put a marker down, I am wholeheartedly against the genocide being perpertrated (sp?) by Israel in Palestine.

      I don’t have the quote to hand, but it was with reference to wanting Iran to wipe all jews off the planet or some such far too widely sweeping statement to be an acceptable comment by a Greens office bearer.

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      • SourGumGum@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Just like “From the River to the Sea” is a call to genocide according to Zionists.

        Provide something to back up such an extreme claim. Because we all know how Zionists twist words.

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      • idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Perpetrated, since you asked :)

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      • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I did a quick search and cannot find anything about what you’re alleging. Are you going to hit me with

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      • zedcell@lemmygrad.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Post the quote from the source or rescind the comment.

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  • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If that were true then they should have said that as the official reason for her being suspended, but they didn’t which makes it seem more like you’re completely wrong

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    • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The Greens have not made ANY public statement on the subject - because the matter is under investigation - and you may notice if you do a quick search the ONLY publications putting out this story in the way you’re doing are right wing and far right - my search gives me hits for Daily Mail GB News and Telegraph, plus a handful of obscure right wing blogs. No greens announcement, and nothing out of the left wing (for the simple reason they dont have any facts to build a story on and unlike the Mail even terfy papers like the guardian don’t like to just make shit up)

      If you can’t see “right wing attack job” written all over this then you need to look into your media literacy

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      • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Just because the right wing is attacking you doesn’t mean you’re right or good, if any of the info they’re reporting is verifiably untrue then you should be able to prove it

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• rah@hilariouschaos.com ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It sounds like something Reform would do

  Welcome to Zionism

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  • atro_city@fedia.io ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Aren't the Green Anti-Zionist?

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That needs an explanation

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    • rah@hilariouschaos.com ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      From the post that you commented under:

      Of note is that Eleanora was elected to the spot and backed by ‘Greens for Palestine’ . 2 Weeks later she is out on transphobic grounds and seems to have her suspension leaked to the Daily Mail potentially by someone in the Greens.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ok yeah I missed that.

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