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• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Would be a rad way to thin out the herd of xenophobic rich people, though 🤔

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• gjoel@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  No, sharks rarely infest gated communities. The point was that infestations usually consist of animals that live in the place they are undesired.

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  • SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    No, the point is that indigenous populations are not infesting their own natural habitats.

    For example, “Native Americans” did not “infest” the United States. White people did.

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    • gjoel@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s a different point though. If you have a termite infestation, you might say that they’re invasive to the house and it’s not their natural element. However you might also say that they live there, which is equally true.

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      • SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        If you have a termite infestation, you might say that they’re invasive to the house and it’s not their natural element. However you might also say that they live there, which is equally true.

        But the post is about sharks in the ocean. It is their natural habitat, they live there, but because they’re sometimes inconvenient to humans, humans sometimes use the phrase “shark-infested waters”, which can be damaging because it frames disrupting the ecosystem as some kind of defensive act.

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    • bobo@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      For example, “Native Americans” did not “infest” the United States. White people did.

      Do you imagine the various indigenous populations of Americas popped out of the ground like mushrooms? They’re pretty far from their “natural habitat” in the plains of sub-saharan Africa… Or is that too far back in history and their “natural habitat” is in Siberia and Polynesia?

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      • SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It’s not that they came from nowhere, but rather that they aren’t pests. Invaders slaughtered them and colonized the country, and in modern times are actively destroying ecosystems and the environment.

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    • gjoel@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      So the right phrasing would be “no, it’s their natural habitat”, not “no, they live there”, since, and this was my point if you go back, if an animal infests something it usually lives there, making the point in the post redundant.

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    • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yes the white folks came and made a mess of the place. Which, if sharks chose to move into your house, they would also do. Probably leave the taps running all over the place too

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  • Natanael@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    A zoo is a gated community

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    • MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Damn snobbish animals living in gated communities.

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    • gjoel@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      And sharks regularly infest zoos?

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      • Natanael@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Wouldn’t you if you were a shark? It’s a whole smörgåsbord

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    • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Valid point. Although that’s without their consent, whereas most humans infesting the ocean chose to be there, USS Abraham Lincoln sailors notwithstanding.

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