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DaleGribble88@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Something a friend and I were discussing today was that you can’t really avoid AI and remain productive right now. (We both teach university Computer Science.)

Ignoring how so much of modern society is running on it, you’d have to complete isolate to avoid it and it’s reach entirely.

Additionally, the tooling and infrastructure to support how things were done just a few years ago has all been stripped away. Online search is ass on every major engine right now, most of the forums are dead, documentation and discussion lives inside of private Discord channels. It feels like there just isn’t a back to go back to anymore.

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SirLeToet@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
People are severely overestimating the importance of AI. It’s more FOMO than anything else.

Wait until you have to pay non-subsidized prices for the use of LLM’s, how productive are they in reality when the real costs come in to play? And you could just train and hire actual people to do the job far more accurately with some quality control?

Not denying there’s some fields with great benefits from LLM’s, but writing emails, answering phonecalls aren’t it. LLM’s cant even transcribe conversations with any proper accuracy and as a society we now trust them to make decisions.

It boggles the mind, really.

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- DaleGribble88@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  On the contrary, it does a great job with responding to work Emails! I paste in the chain and prompt it “How can I tell this person to fuck off in corporate speak?” And I haven’t been fired yet! ;)
  
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  - CaptPretentious@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    'Ye’t is doing a lot there.
    
    People notice when they get an AI generated response. If ‘looks’ professional, but that’s not what it ever comes across as. It comes across as lazy and incompetent.
    
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    DaleGribble88@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I mean, if you use the AI incompetentlyvand lazily sure? I think if you use anything incompetently and lazily you’ll get that result. The trick is to not be an absolute dumbass and then you’ll be fine. Know what can and cannot do well, then use it where appropriate to take advantage of the 80/20 rule.
    
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kestrel7_7@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Hi, I work in the trades. AI is not a regular part of my life. I have never used any of these chatbots because they seem… half-cooked. Like an Early Access game on Steam. Anyway, the whole thing has zero relevance to my job.

“you’d have to complete isolate to avoid it and it’s reach entirely.”

Nah. I mean, obviously for you, teaching computer science, I can see why you feel this way. But lots of people truly never engage with this stuff because it’s pretty underwhelming. My main interaction with AI thus far has been telling my doctor not to use the chatbot that puts lies into people’s medical records, and that’s about it.

“Online search is ass”

Isn’t this, like, explicitly because of AI?

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- DaleGribble88@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Oh brother, you have no idea, do you?
  
  This shit is a cancer that has spread all through b2b processes. If you’ve bought gasoline over the last 6 months, all of that was coordinated via AI. Everything from order placement, rights trading & selling, distribution route planning, etc. it’s also worth noting how many phone support jobs have shifted to AI.
  
  Pretty much all fraud monitoring for banks are run by AI now. Both checking transactions and if you call and report a fraudulent charge directly.
  
  Further, you are using Lemmy right now. It is almost certainly running in a docker container, which a tool developed with AI contributions and an integrated AI feature set, and inside of that docker container is almost certainly a Linux distribution, which was developed with AI integrations.
  
  It all ties back to my point that if someone was going to completely shun all things powered by AI, they would basically have to disengage with any system that has been actively developed, updated, or almost even just maintained over the last few years. It isn’t ubiquitous yet, but it is fast approaching that point.
  
  Isn’t this, like, explicitly because of AI
  
  I mean, more or less, yes? That is essentially the point that I was making. The old ways aren’t as effective anymore because they have been replaced with AI. And just not effective as in effective when compared to using AI, but not effective because the infrastructure, systems, and communities that made the old ways possible have been uprooted.
  
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