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The patriarchy is not synonymous with men and boys. It is the system that upholds strict gender roles for both men and women. The patriarchy is detrimental to men and boys as well.

It means literally being 'ruled by the father'. I know languages are living, evolving things, and words' meanings change and drift, that's why when we want one to hold its meaning we use dead languages like Ancient Greek. The word that fits that definition is 'sexism'.

Don't play coy. Those cultures are run by men in positions of power. The law-makers help hold up patriarchal norms.

I am not, and I'll give you an example from one of those cultures I'm closer with: in my country gypsies (the Calé people) are a patriarchal culture, in the sense that they have literal 'patriarchs', kind of like community leaders with a bit of extra-official power. But in most gypsy families I've met it was the women the ones that owned everything: homes, cars, bank accounts.. and the keepers and enforcers of some quite barbaric, in my opinion, traditions and rituals (practiced by many, but not all) against women and girls, when they could literally just walk away with everything if they so wanted, they usually don't legalise the marriages because they don't trust the payos' (non-gypsy) laws and system (can't blame them) so they wouldn't even have to divorce. But they don't, and if a young woman strays from tradition they are the first to make her pay. They are as responsible as the men on maintaining the sexism.

I'm a woman.

Ok. I already suspected that. But did you have to demand being able to wear pants? Or are you including yourself with the ones that did it because of a shared (gender) identity? This is just a me thing, but I just find the latter weird, not just for gender but for any other facet of someone identity, probably because I lack the identity part of my brain, or it's not developed, I think.

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velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

It means literally being ‘ruled by the father’. I know languages are living, evolving things, and words’ meanings change and drift, that’s why when we want one to hold its meaning we use dead languages like Ancient Greek. The word that fits that definition is ‘sexism’.

If you’re not going to fully read my replies to you, this is a complete waste of time.

Patriarchy is a social system in which positions of authority are primarily held by men. The term patriarchy is used both in anthropology to describe a family or clan controlled by the father or eldest male or group of males, and in feminist theory to describe a broader social structure in which men as a group dominate society.[1][2][3]

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- OfCourseNot@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I read your comment fully and carefully. I ain't no troll, I'm really discussing in good faith and I think that my believes are not very far from yours. I'm saying that equating patriarchy with sexism is just wrong, and has the undesired effects I mention in my previous comment. On that line, also, I don't agree either with equating feminism with 'equality', because it is not, it is the fight to better women's lives, which is absolutely fine! I'm not an anti-feminist and I don't think any of that crap that it's women supremacy or whatever, but it definitely isn't trying to better men's position in the matters where they are at a disadvantage, and it doesn't have to, that's why it's called feminism.
  
  Feminist theorist, sociologists, or anthropologists trying to push these meanings, in a totally artificial way, is not helping feminism or equality, it's pushing people toward sexism and other quite bad -isms.
  
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  - velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Feminism is literally the belief that all genders should be treated equally.
    
    feminism noun fem·i·nism ˈfe-mə-ˌni-zəm
    
    : belief in and advocacy of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes expressed especially through organized activity on behalf of women’s rights and interests
    
    Feminism is a range of socio-political movements and ideologies that aim to define and establish the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes.
    
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    OfCourseNot@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I'd given you the benefit of doubt but I don't think anymore you are engaging in good faith. I've acknowledged that's the meaning many people give to 'feminism', and said that in my opinion, in practice, it is not, that's just a lie, it is not true at all, and I explained why I think that. And you're just throwing at me your feminist-theory-dictionary definitions at me. That's not discussing, you're not addressing any point I made.
    
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