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velma@sh.itjust.works 1 day agoAlso, bit of a tangent, but is that like an ‘anti-royal we’ or are you old as fuck?
I’m a woman.
It’s the patriarchy that is the reason for these laws. The patriarchy is not synonymous with men and boys. It is the system that upholds strict gender roles for both men and women. The patriarchy is detrimental to men and boys as well.
I don’t have to guess, I have relation with people from cultures where it’s not acceptable yet for women to wear whatever they want. It is enforced by their whole community, not only men, and it, the community, also imposes strict rules on how to live for men too.
Don’t play coy. Those cultures are run by men in positions of power. The law-makers help hold up patriarchal norms.
OfCourseNot@fedia.io 1 day ago
It means literally being 'ruled by the father'. I know languages are living, evolving things, and words' meanings change and drift, that's why when we want one to hold its meaning we use dead languages like Ancient Greek. The word that fits that definition is 'sexism'.
I am not, and I'll give you an example from one of those cultures I'm closer with: in my country gypsies (the Calé people) are a patriarchal culture, in the sense that they have literal 'patriarchs', kind of like community leaders with a bit of extra-official power. But in most gypsy families I've met it was the women the ones that owned everything: homes, cars, bank accounts.. and the keepers and enforcers of some quite barbaric, in my opinion, traditions and rituals (practiced by many, but not all) against women and girls, when they could literally just walk away with everything if they so wanted, they usually don't legalise the marriages because they don't trust the payos' (non-gypsy) laws and system (can't blame them) so they wouldn't even have to divorce. But they don't, and if a young woman strays from tradition they are the first to make her pay. They are as responsible as the men on maintaining the sexism.
Ok. I already suspected that. But did you have to demand being able to wear pants? Or are you including yourself with the ones that did it because of a shared (gender) identity? This is just a me thing, but I just find the latter weird, not just for gender but for any other facet of someone identity, probably because I lack the identity part of my brain, or it's not developed, I think.
velma@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
If you’re not going to fully read my replies to you, this is a complete waste of time.
OfCourseNot@fedia.io 1 day ago
I read your comment fully and carefully. I ain't no troll, I'm really discussing in good faith and I think that my believes are not very far from yours. I'm saying that equating patriarchy with sexism is just wrong, and has the undesired effects I mention in my previous comment. On that line, also, I don't agree either with equating feminism with 'equality', because it is not, it is the fight to better women's lives, which is absolutely fine! I'm not an anti-feminist and I don't think any of that crap that it's women supremacy or whatever, but it definitely isn't trying to better men's position in the matters where they are at a disadvantage, and it doesn't have to, that's why it's called feminism.
Feminist theorist, sociologists, or anthropologists trying to push these meanings, in a totally artificial way, is not helping feminism or equality, it's pushing people toward sexism and other quite bad -isms.
velma@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Feminism is literally the belief that all genders should be treated equally.