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kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 17 hours agoCatholics do not believe that non-Christians go to heaven. Best case scenario, righteous unbelievers go to purgatory. Same with unbaptised babies.
Also, I grew up going to baptist and pentecostal churches. They 1000% do not think my atheist ass is getting into heaven no matter how righteous I am, even though I got baptized for that matter. Unless I repent at the 11th hour and “accept Jesus into my heart as my savior,” anyway. There are certainly plenty denominations that are not all about preaching “hellfire for the unbeliever”, but even plenty of those so believe that is true even if they’re not boasting about it. There are some that allow for people to be saved through ignorance of Jesus (which makes missionary work kind of fucked up when you think about it that way). But even that is not the norm.
Jesus’ sacrifice saving humanity from eternal damnation is a key tenet of nearly all denominations. And most of them also say that you need to actually accept it turn your life over to him.
Source: 37 years of life in the Bible belt as both an active churchgoer and apostate.
zloubida@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Purgatory is a step that leads to heaven, not a final destination. It’s a step that a lot of Catholics will have to take too, according to the catholic church so it’s not something that separates believers and non-believers.
Baptists and Pentecostalism are categories of evangelicalism. So yeah, they believe that. But they’re a minority within Christianity.
Yes.
No. Only in evangelicalism.
Rothe@piefed.social 5 hours ago
That is not true. Lots of Christian denominations believe that as well. Most of them in fact. You are just Americentric in your belief that Evangelicalism is automatically meant, when that is not really a large denomination outside of the US.
zloubida@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
I’m not American. I know no denomination outside evangelicalism which teach that. And in France, even evangelicals does not teach that for a large part. Catholicism does not. Mainline Protestantism does not. I don’t know well Eastern Orthodoxy, but as far as I know, they do not either.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Well, consider me brainwashed by evangelicals then. Non-evangelicals really need to step up their PR game.
zloubida@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
Yeah, that’s what cults do. I’m very sorry.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
False, not only in evangelicalism. The words of Jesus Christ disagree with you. Do you need me to quote the “Narrow Gate” to you? You should be very familiar with it if you’ve read the Bible.