You don’t think some members may have joined before this administration and got trapped doing this kind of shit?
What, when we were occupying Afghanistan for 20 years and slaughtering hundreds of thousands of civilians? What on earth makes you think I only hate them because of who the president is?
Its not like you can just quit, you usually do jail time.
Tough shit. A person threatening you with jail time does not justify committing murder.
And if they have a family, are they supposed to just abandon them?
Even if they have to, they’d be no worse off than the families of the people they kill. Although, I suppose they often kill the families too, so kind of a bad example.
Help me understand why it’s their fault they were told to do stupid shit with very little recourse.
This may be a difficult concept to grasp, but human beings have agency which means that if someone tells you to do something, you don’t actually have to do it, because you are not a robot.
The US military has been like this for decades though. You could argue ignorance, but at some point you have to take some personal responsibility for your actions.
The last time the US military did anything not evil was WWII and that was not really by choice. It’s their fault they were told to do stupid shit because they have at least three generations of murder as examples they could have looked at.
US straight up turned away diaspora Jews who fled Hitler. Soviets let them in, even tired to warn western countries like UK and so on but Thw Weat was ready to let Hitler destroy and conquer Europe so they could be turned on the Communists. The USSR foiled that plan.
Objection@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Because they’re imperialist killers for hire?
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You don’t think some members may have joined before this administration and got trapped doing this kind of shit?
Its not like you can just quit, you usually do jail time.
And if they have a family, are they supposed to just abandon them?
Help me understand why it’s their fault they were told to do stupid shit with very little recourse.
Objection@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
What, when we were occupying Afghanistan for 20 years and slaughtering hundreds of thousands of civilians? What on earth makes you think I only hate them because of who the president is?
Tough shit. A person threatening you with jail time does not justify committing murder.
Even if they have to, they’d be no worse off than the families of the people they kill. Although, I suppose they often kill the families too, so kind of a bad example.
This may be a difficult concept to grasp, but human beings have agency which means that if someone tells you to do something, you don’t actually have to do it, because you are not a robot.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Where are you getting your info. Links please.
J4g2F@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
You saying they joined before a administration did war crimes? So they joined before July 4, 1776?
Trump is worse, yeah of course. But there is no living USA president that shouldn’t be send to den hauge
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m not saying any of that, I’m asking why soldiers deserve to eat trash food. No one can explain it, they just say “they deserve it”
123@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
The US military has been like this for decades though. You could argue ignorance, but at some point you have to take some personal responsibility for your actions.
Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
*Centuries
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
The last time the US military did anything not evil was WWII and that was not really by choice. It’s their fault they were told to do stupid shit because they have at least three generations of murder as examples they could have looked at.
deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
US straight up turned away diaspora Jews who fled Hitler. Soviets let them in, even tired to warn western countries like UK and so on but Thw Weat was ready to let Hitler destroy and conquer Europe so they could be turned on the Communists. The USSR foiled that plan.
mrdown@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is not even true . Fire bombing of tokyo and the two nuclear bomb are in the top worst terrorist attacks
Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Oh? Which administration do you claim it was fine to join during?
They can always quit, unless they are cowards .
Why are you not as concerned about the families in the receiving end of their invasions?
Why did they follow up on doing what they were told about signing up to murder foreign kids?
mrdown@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No