Comment on Anon does nothing

• Th4tGuyII@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Being a parent is a life long job that you chose when you had a kid, so that latter take is wild.

  But in any case, even if I agreed with you, do you not believe parents have a responsibility to teach their children basic life skills?
  You brought a kid into the world, you should at the very least teach it how to look after itself.

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  • avocado@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Honestly your take feels wild to me as well. Sure you should teach your kids how to take care themselves, but at some point they are an adult and have to take the responsibility for their own lives.

    If people don’t have to take personal responsibility what stops them from taking advantage of it? Like you could have the best parents, but claim they messed you up, so refuse to work and leech of them for the rest of your life.

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    • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Having “the best parents” would preclude that possibility, though. Your “what-if” is a non-sequitur, it doesn’t follow.

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      • avocado@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Each person is the result of their genetics, upbringing, friend circle, life experiences etc. Having the best parents doesn’t guarantee you turning out well.

        Also nothing personal but using big words like this when you can express much simpler, comes off very pretentious.

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      • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        no it doesn’t.

        plenty of shitty people i know had wonderful parents. and some great people had shitty ones.

        it’s a matter of the choices the person makes.

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    • Th4tGuyII@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Yes, I do agree that you have a level of personal responsibility towards yourself - and that you owe it to yourself to make the best of the hand you're dealt.

      But turning 18 doesn't suddenly absolve your parents of their failings.
      If they failed to teach Anon the basic life skills that would help them to be a proper member of society, then that is still their failure - even if it is a failure being further exacerbated by Anon themselves.

      As @some_kind_of_guy said, your last paragraph negates itself...

      A good parent would've forced Anon to learn those skills, and wouldn't just stand-by going "they're an adult now, not my problem" - nor would they coddle them and allow them to be a NEET. Both are forms of neglectful parenting, as I said its a lifetime job.

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      • avocado@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I just wanted to highlight the personal responsibility part. Otherwise I agree.

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• TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  because people are need someone to blame. they can’t blame themselves.

  hence why you have 30+ year old children who blame ‘society’ for their failings.

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  • avocado@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    On one hand I understand showing empathy and highlighting that people might be going through mental issues, abuse. However laziness and lack personal responsibility should always be considered as well.

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    • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      you missed the cultural memo, in 2026 you’re considered abusive if you think personal responsibility is a thing. nothing is anyone’s personal fault, ever, anymore.

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