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I have to assume you’re trolling. One of those things is rather different from the other lol
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Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Creepy ass furries, always trying to stick your dicks in malevolent spirits and helpless farm animals.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No, I’m against raping both malevolent spirits and animals. Humans too, actually.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
Yeah I’m gonna go with the other commenter and just say thats some crazy bait lol
What a weird way to troll
Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nah, no bait. I don’t make people sad for fun. It’s honestly just creepy as fuck. I made an unpopular opinion post on it a while back.
Demdaru@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Eh.
Kinda with you on that one. Never understood furries and with their porn/erotica overflow on the internet them saying “it’s not a sex thing!” seems pathetic. Especially that this is popular enough to breed a joke about struggling artist giving into the dark side of furry porn.
That being said, the best (and only sensible) way it was explained to me is that they perceive it more like xenophilia rather than anything close to actual animals. They perceive these chars more like aliens rather than animals crunched into human form.
Still feels iffy but I grasp them better with that explanation. Helps that they actively hunt down zoophiliacs in their fandom so there must be some meat on that explanation.
Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Even without actual animals I still see it as likely a group that people with certain mental illnesses are attracted to that encourages them to sexualize imaginary animals. It doesn’t seem like there is any healthy outcome from that. At best it’s encouraging sexual attraction to something that doesn’t exist, and at worst those things that don’t exist look like a cross between humans who do exist and animals who do exist and that could cause people to fall on the wrong size of that actual animals part.
I met a 20 something year old in prison who had molested one of his relatives. When he was out after that sentence his parole officer checked his phone and found videos of him fucking the family dog. It would be much more surprising to find out he’d never seen any of that ‘art’ than to find out he had a big stash of it.
Demdaru@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
At best it’s encouraging sexual attraction to something that doesn’t exist
Which is literally xenophilia. People want to bonk with weird shit all the time - look at all the cases of people needing to be cut out of exhaust pipes or objects stuck in ass or vagina. Deviancy is normal, even if we all have different levels of it. That was the main part that made the xenophilia explanation work for me. Is xenophilia bad? Honestly not for me to judge, as it hurts no one and is pretty much unexplored when it comes to morality as we, kinda, never met any aliens in the first place. At least not en masse, if we try to keep open mind to conspiracy theories ;p
People want to bonk Transformers and we just give them weird look and carry on. People want to frick Cthulu and again, get weird look and carry on. I am of opinion furries also qualify there - they want to bonk something that doesn’t exist. Give a weird look and carry on.
and at worst those things that don’t exist look like a cross between humans who do exist and animals who do exist and that could cause people to fall on the wrong size of that actual animals part.
Yeah, I get ya there. But also there is a well documented thing of furries staying vigilant and hunting down actual zoophiliacs in the fandom. If someone gets too close to actual animal sex art, even if said animal is suggested to be sentient, fandom tends to implode on them and report them, which supports the idea they draw a very clean line between themselves and zoophilia. Which again supports the xenophilia claim.
About the guy you mentioned, I’m actually willing to bet he had nothing to do with furries. If furries were connected to zoophiliacs it would be mentioned more - people love attacking associated stuff and furries already have a huge target on their back. But almost every single time I saw an article about caught zoophiliac, it was a case of peanut butter and deviant curiosity with no moral brakes.
Heck, I have a furry friend, and while teasing him for shit and giggles once I wrangled the topic into more serious rails and it pretty much resulted in him saying he is still fully attracted to humans (and as dude is hetero, specifically women), it’s just that he likes the aesthetic. Similiar to catgirls, basically, just taken into full alien mode. I believe it’s safe to assume this applies to most furries - they are still attracted to humans rather than animals, they just like said humans having weird traits, basically not being vanilla. Which makes these furrsonas actual xenos rather than animals. Which supports xenophilia claim.
Which is still weird but not morally wrong, so there’s nothing wrong with letting them be. Althought they could actually try to minimalize the porn overflow T-T
Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Which is still weird but not morally wrong, so there’s nothing wrong with letting them be.
There’s a huge difference between honestly saying you don’t like a given thing and hunting the people who do that thing down to force them to stop it or die. People on the internet have started to think simply voicing an opinion they don’t like is hate and persecution and intolerance. It screams of never having dealt with genuine intolerance.
I love when people wear clearly racist shirts, because that lets me know from a distance this isn’t a person I want to associate with. They’re allowed to have their asshole opinions. They’re not allowed to attack me or try to drive me out of town because of them.
RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hell yeah it is. Ma always said I was a master baiter.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The bait is strong with this one
Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I made my own a while back. Nothing is ever going to convince me that wanting to have sex with roughly human shaped animals is any less creepy and wrong than if they were saying the same about kids.
Some of them do. The whole anime girl clearly designed to look and act 10 who it’s “ok” to sexualize because she’s really thousands of years old. WINKWINK
Coming up with imaginary scenarios where it’s suddenly moral to have sex with kids or sheep is super weird and creepy.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What kinks are okay and what aren’t? I personally am strongly againt lolicon drawings of any kind, to the point I think it should be illegal material. I don’t view that as “kink” I view it as genuine evil. I’m also not personally into anything non human. That said, I think there is a pretty large distinction between a furry drawing two furries fucking and someone drawing a German shepard fucking a lady. The latter maybe could even be classed in the same realm as lolicon. The former though, thats just consenting adults with extra imagination. I’m not seeing the throughline you are between furries and pedophiles. So, in your estimation, what’s okay/Kink and whats not?
Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t really have a list of sexual kinks I’m a fan of ant not a fan of. Anything forcibly involving non-consenting participants, whether they’re aware of that fact or not, I definitely see as being wrong.
There are over 8 billion people in the world with tens of thousands of combinations of cultures, ethnicities, religions, regional histories, and socioeconomic backgrounds. We’re not all going to agree on the morality of anything. Too many people online have decided to see simple honesty about that from people who feel differently about things than they go as hatred.
A_Wild_Alt_Appears@fedinsfw.app 2 weeks ago
Coming up with imaginary scenarios where being a furry is about wanting to fuck sheep is also weird, and yet here we are. My closest friend is a furry and has zero interest in sexualizing her sonas or other people’s, she just likes drawing herself as dog characters. For her it’s a way of processing different parts of herself by personifying them as separate characters, and she enjoys anthropomorphic animals as an aesthetic 🤷🏻
The rhetoric you’re using is exactly the same harmful stuff folks say about queer folks, complete with the same leap in logic from whats happening (drawing anthro characters in various contexts including sexual ones, having queer relationships including queer sex) to something intrinsically harmful (animal abuse, pedophilia).
Your own post is just you venting that you hate people that seem weird to you. How would anyone learn anything from that when you clearly didn’t?
Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Everyone in the world is never going to condone or be a fan of anything everyone else in the world does.
People who get off to anthropomorphized animals seem to have something wrong with their minds. I’m not going to lie about that or act as though I don’t see it that way. There’s a massive distinction between being honest that you don’t understand or like a thing and it doesn’t fit your values and world view, and trying to whip up a mob to kill people who do that thing.
The fall-back to comparing anyone who dislikes anything to racists or homophobes known for intolerant violence is lazy.