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• ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Capitalism has nothing to do with transactions. Capitalism would be if the truck was owed by Benny Ohana, who would not show up, not fill it up with gas, not repair it, but would still receive half of pizza and 2/3 of beer.

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  • ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You are correct that I was not describing capitalism.
    I was participating in the silly by creeping closer to full communism and still saying it’s something else.

    And I’m not sure why Benny would only get half and 2/3s respectively. They owned the truck, so they’re the one that did the moving. The others are just employees.

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  • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m pretty sure they were referring to From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs which most definitely is not capitalism lol, it’s a joke

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    • ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is now definitely capitalism because it’s transactions.

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      • tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        the last sentence is a joke… because what is being described ia socialism. How is that problematic? lol wat?

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• divingdonkey@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s not really capitalism without the involvement of capital, is it? It’s more akin to a trade-and-barter-economy/society, where everyone involved should have a high level of faith in others

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  • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m pretty sure they were referring to From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs which most definitely is not capitalism lol

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    • divingdonkey@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      TIL, thx

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  • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How do you think Kevin paid for the truck? With pizzas?

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    • divingdonkey@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sorry if it wasn’t clear, but money != Capital, not necessarily. You can have money to exchange for goods, but as long as your money doesn’t auto-accumulate via interest, dividends etc, you don’t necessarily have capital. Of course this is mainly a discussion on definitions then

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      • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No, the truck is his capital. That’s his means of production — presumably, not just of free pizzas in exchange for moving furniture, but even then, every dollar he saves by not having to pay for dinner could go towards paying off his car loan.

        On top of that he’s saving on taxes because no money was ever exchanged for this transaction. Everything about this scenario is 100% capitalist.

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