Comment on Why is AOC a big deal? She just speaks common sense and calls out absurdity. Have we really gone that far off the rails where we don't do it ourselves?

orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Nobody knew the threat of Hitler better than FDR. He wanted to start arming Britain and France the day the Nazis went into Poland, if not sooner. He had to wait for the right time.

  Another example. Frederick Douglas was an escaped slave. He had suffered the horrors not just observed them. When the 1860 election came around, Douglas stepped away form the candidate who wanted instant Abolition and backed Abe Lincoln, who said he would keep slavery if it meant saving the Union.

  Douglas decided it was smarter to back the winner and have the ear of a sitting President than it was to back someone he might have agreed with much more.

  Politics is a game, learn the rules

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  • orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Mamdani has set the standard. Read the room.

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    • theparadox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Mamdani literally strategically avoided a fight with Hakeem Jefferies because it’s not the time.

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      • orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        When is? After Trump fabricates an emergency and subverts elections with some rebranding of martial law?

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    • DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I live in New York and voted for him.

      Mamdani barely squeaked in. He got 51% of the vote running against a known molester and a radio host in a funny hat. Harris got 65% of the NYC vote and Biden got 80%.

      Don’t confuse one battle with winning the war.

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      • orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        And don’t confuse barely winning with what I intend: he’s running his government in a way that they should be trying to emulate and copy.

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Teach me.

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    • DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Frederick Douglas was an escaped slave. He had suffered the horrors not just observed them. When the 1860 election came around, Douglas stepped away form the candidate who wanted instant Abolition and backed Abe Lincoln, who said he would keep slavery if it meant saving the Union.

      Another good lesson is Obamacare. Even with majorities in both Houses, Obama barely managed to get the ACA passed. He thought that because he’d based his bill on Mitt Romney’s plan the GOP would embrace it. Instead they attacked full force. How Obama got it done is a master class in politics.

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      • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Black men are magic, got it.

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• Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  A while ago jacobin had some stats showing how often she would mention Medicare for all, and it decreases by a lot as time went on

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