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• boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  without AI via deepl or something

  This deepl?

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  Also note that Google Translate is AI too. It uses neural networks. Has for like a decade I believe.

  Really what it seems to me you’re saying is that nobody should use machine translations and one should always hire a translator for translating things into/from languages they don’t speak?

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  • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, Google Translate has used neural networks for quite a while. Recently they’ve also switched it to using the same Gemini LLMs that they give you chat interfaces with, so it’s pretty equivalent to using ChatGPT for translations. It’s just another company’s version of the same thing, wrapped in a translation interface.

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  • Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s not an LLM IIRC (the deepl one at least, Google now uses gemini)

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    • rursta@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      what in blazes do you think is a «large language model»?

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      • Sas@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Deepl was around way before LLMs. It was still made with neutral networks trained on research papers and the like but it couldn’t be communicated with or generate stuff for you. So u can see why axolotl thought that it didn’t use LLMs. However it seems to nowadays use LLMs

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      • Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        All LLMs are AIs but not all AIs are LLMs (and LLMs are what 6call are hating)

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  • detren@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For professional work - yes everyone should hire translators.

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    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, people who got laid off from their day jobs surely can afford paying other people.

      What about indie development is ‘professional’? This is not Blizzard or EA games you’re talking about.

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      • detren@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        He’s selling it, so it’s at least somewhat profesional. And no one expects the game to be translated to every language ever. Most indie games only release in English, especially at first.

        AI translations just cheapen your art, and as someone who speaks multiple languages I can tell you first hand - AI translations are NOT good when it comes to stories. They’re barely good enough for translating a conversation coherently. And on top of it all is it not incredibly ironic for someone who was laid off because of AI to use AI?

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      • EuroNutellaMan@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Then don’t translate your game, or crowdsource the translation like NixOS and other FOSS does.

        English is a lingua franca for a reason, most people speak it or at least understand it. Now sure: there are people who don’t, but if your game has netted you less than $100 that’s not something you really need to worry about.

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• deafboy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  withoit AI via deepl…

  Will somebody tell him?

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  • raze2012@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I know he means “without the use of LLMs.”. That’s the big thing being forced down People’s throats that they don’t like.

    I doubt people are rebelling against reinforcement learning for physically based animations, or prediction engines to forecast the weather

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