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starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Do you think the entire artistic value of soulsikes is in their difficulty? That it would ruin them if players with worse reaction time were given the ability to progress at the same rate as players with exceptional reaction time? That Dark Souls would be essentially the same if instead of Gwyn, Lord of Cinder, there was just a floating hitbox with 4,185 health? What a fucking insult to Miyazaki’s writing

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DonkeyStar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Since I’ve seen your other reply, this got even funnier. “Do you think the entire point of pizza is sauce? What a fucking insult to cheese.”

“Pizza has sauce and cheese. People like pizza that has sauce and cheese.”

“I LOVE PIZZA, I JUST THINK PIZZA SHOULD HAVE LESS SAUCE! IT WON’T CHANGE THE PIZZA!”

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- starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  How exactly do you think your analogy works? Because I think it actually makes perfect sense to let people put less sauce on their pizza if they want less sauce on their pizza
  
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  - DonkeyStar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    EXACTLY. What you’re missing is that you’re asking for alterations to someone else’s pizza rather than making your own or finding a different pizza.
    
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    starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    No I’m not lmfao do you think I’m demanding that they make the game easier for everyone? Why don’t Fromsoft fans understand the concept of options? The whole point is that you should be able to play the game at whatever level of difficulty is appropriate for you
    
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ashenone@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Do you think the entire artistic value of soulsikes is in their difficulty?

I mean the entire theme of souls games is overcoming rediculous challenges in the face of what seems like an impossible task. These aren’t games with amazingly written dialogues, or intricate in depth stories. The game you play is the story of your character dieing repeatedly until they overcome a great challenge to meet their goals. It would fundamentally change the game if you could just slide a bar to make it easier.

Let me ask you this, why do you think every game should cater to you? Isn’t it OK for some art to not be for everyone? Isn’t that what we tells chuds when they whine and moan about main characters being women or poc? Why can’t some art be about the overcoming a challenge?

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- starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Sure, and what counts as a ridiculous challenge depends on the player. I can promise you that you have an easier time beating the Dancer of the Boreal Valley at 5,111 health than I would if she only had 2,500. We are playing at different difficulty levels already. The challenge is harder for me.
  
  Let me ask you this, why do you think every game should cater to you?
  
  I don’t. I don’t like visual novels because there’s not enough action, so I don’t play visual novels. I don’t care for sports, so I don’t play sport games. I don’t enjoy the basic mechanics of fighting games, so I don’t play fighting games.
  
  I do enjoy Fromsoft games. I apparently like the stories more than you do since you’re actively insulting them, and everything between boss fights is fantastic. Literally the only thing I’m asking for is the ability to play a game that I already like at the same level of difficulty that you play at. Again, it would not fundamentally change the game if the Ancient Wyvern had half as much health.
  
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