Which is it? There can’t be a “classic line” for historically implemented large scale communism if large scale communism is impossible to implement. You’re contradicting yourself.
The problem is that proper communism is functionally impossible, and every crackpot despot in the last hundred years has wanted to get a little street credit with the working class by slapping socialism or communism on their brand.
Proper communism is functionally impossible at the present day. It is possible that after generations of widespread automation and gradual socialism, people on average may come to be able to exist communistically.
You are correct though that historical examples have typically just been slapping an ideological label on a system that was neither socialist nor communist in practice. I mean, communism doesn’t even make semantic sense below the global level.
Proper communism has been done at a small scale many times, e.g. in Catalonia during the Spanish civil war. Its main point of failure has been insufficient ability to defeat violence from without.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Cope
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
When in history has a stateless, classless, moneyless society been implemented at large scale?
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Almost like its an impossible to achieve strictly idealistic pursuit.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Which is it? There can’t be a “classic line” for historically implemented large scale communism if large scale communism is impossible to implement. You’re contradicting yourself.
timestatic@feddit.org 3 days ago
The stateless version is an ideal that will never be reached with so many people around lmao
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Unironically depends on how you define “state”.
OS2Warp@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
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sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 3 days ago
It almost suggests it can’t be done!
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Almost
DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The problem is that proper communism is functionally impossible, and every crackpot despot in the last hundred years has wanted to get a little street credit with the working class by slapping socialism or communism on their brand.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
Proper communism is functionally impossible at the present day. It is possible that after generations of widespread automation and gradual socialism, people on average may come to be able to exist communistically.
You are correct though that historical examples have typically just been slapping an ideological label on a system that was neither socialist nor communist in practice. I mean, communism doesn’t even make semantic sense below the global level.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Thats what I said
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Proper communism has been done at a small scale many times, e.g. in Catalonia during the Spanish civil war. Its main point of failure has been insufficient ability to defeat violence from without.