Comment on It's rigged

gergolippai@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• CptOblivius@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They are talking just about social security not full income tax, etc.

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• TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yeah but at least you get something other than murdered brown people half the world away for your tax dollars.

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  • The_v@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They do murder brown people inside the country and nearby it’s borders as well.

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    • TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fair enough

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• Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Oh no, do you feel unwell? Do you need to take paid personal leave from work to visit a free doctor?

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is normal in civilized countries.

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  • gergolippai@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    *it’s not free.

    i pay (on top of my tax deductions) about monthly 150eur for health insurance, and on top of that a yearly 384 eur “eigen risico” (own risk). still better than the US, but free it is not.

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    • T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you are unable to afford to pay those additional costs, are you unable to access Healthcare?

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• Glytch@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Looks at the services your government provides you and compare it to America. That should help you feel a little better about the taxes you pay. We end up paying more to private corporations for the same or worse than your taxes pay for.

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• AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is social security, employee contribution only.

  A big reason US taxes seem lower is because there are so many and we usually don’t aggregate

  Google says you’re specifying the duty income tax rate, so it’s not comparable and the Dutch social security tax’s is “only” 27.5%

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  • gergolippai@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    your “only” is doing some heavy lifting there :) but of course i wouldn’t have it any other way.

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• wolfpack86@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  As other mentioned its social security and Medicare tax. Social security tax ends after a point and Medicare tax continues (1.45% I think), hence the 2.2% effective tax rate.

  What’s missing is also the employer taxes, which are mirrored, this the cost of carrying employees in the US is higher than the gross wage… So the effective tax and real wage is all masked. (Eg if my salary is $100,000 I pay like $12k in social taxes and my employer also does the same, meaning the cost to the employer to hire me is $112,000)

  All this said, the limit on social security tax is fucking stupid and needs to be abolished.

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• RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Don’t worry - I not take home half my pay as netpay, too, after deductions for tax and retirement and healthcare and have a $4k deductible before my health insurance kicks in.

  So it’s not paid in taxes, but works out the same.

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