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• turdas@suppo.fi ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That sort of pedophilia just has much less cultural acceptance in English speaking world

  Which is why it’s not always the most accurate translation. Part of the job of a translator is to translate cultural nuance, which would be lost here.

  It’s a bit like how in English, Epstein wouldn’t call Trump a pedophile, he’d say he “likes them young”. In Japanese he could call him a lolicon and get the same tone.

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  • edible_funk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The lack of stigma against pedophilia does not make it not pedophilia, it just makes it socially acceptable to be a pedophile.

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    • turdas@suppo.fi ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, and part of the job of a translator is to make sure that this fact is clear to the reader of the translation. “Pedophile” is virtually never a socially acceptable moniker in English whereas sometimes in Japanese “lolicon” is. Therefore it cannot be translated directly. This isn’t particularly unusual; Japanese is a very contextual language, so even beyond cultural differences there are lots of words that require a different translation in different contexts.

      For this specific scene the translation could well be fine (I imagine it’s probably a gag scene where the other character gets flustered and rejects the accusation), but there are circumstances where a different translation is required.

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      • edible_funk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Except the context is just that pedophilia is much less stigmatized. It still means pedophile it just doesn’t carry the social consequences because it’s more socially acceptable. It doesn’t mean something that can’t be expressed in english. It’s not complicated. Saying someone is perving on little girls would be less impactful than calling them a pedophile but it means the same thing.

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  • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How would you translate the word to best fit the meaning?

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    • psycotica0@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If the term isn’t meant to be so “heavy” in the original usage, and there isn’t an equivalent “light” term here, I wonder if it would’ve been better to just translate it as “I didn’t realize you were a creep” or something else that misses the nuance, but gets the intended feeling and tone across.

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      • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Does “pedophile” not work in the scene in question?

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      he’d say he “likes them young”

      They already basically answered that.

      Though in this context, maybe the best thing to do is to not translate it. Most of the audience is likely to know the word already.

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      • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Did the character mean to say that they’re a pedophile but without the bad implication of it?

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    • turdas@suppo.fi ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t know, I haven’t watched the show so I don’t know what the meaning is here.

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