I say people like Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes seeded the culture that led to the modern right wing.
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Boingboing_r@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I think W Bush painted the world black and white when there is nuance. You’re either with us against us. Started two very unpopular wars and dragged Nato members in. Caused mass immigration to Europe from leading to the raise of people like Bannon, Trump and Farage. The entire far right really. For me, Bush was the catalyst that led us to where we are right now and is the worse president. But even I think I am wrong cause my memory doesn’t go back much further.
And worse of all. Bush didn’t even win. Roger Stone literally stormed the recount, Bushes brother shut the count down and the supreme court went cool, cool, cool. Been hating ever since the shocking lack of democracy in America. And the fact that some anti abortion Gun nut in some swing state determines how many of my friends will die in wars, how much petrol will cost and how much food will cost due to sheer greed of the owner class in America.
So for me. Bush 2. Trump just let the world see the corruption in day light where the others kept it in the dark.
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prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
There’s no fucking way Bush is worse than Trump. It’s not even close.
thoro@lemmy.ml 13 minutes ago
I think it’s very close.
Bush launched two wars where the US invaded countries in the Middle East, leading to decades of destabilization in the region and leading to millions dead. His admin coincided with the rise of Fox News and conservative punditry outside talk radio. Patriot act, tax cuts, oversaw the recession, etc.
Israel’s genocide started under Biden, so I can’t exactly put that on Trump even if he’s supported it. This quagmire with Iran isn’t as big as the invasions were.
Trump’s been more damaging domestically with his scotus appointments and emboldening racists, but if you look outside just the US, then yeah I think you can definitely make the argument that Bush was worse.
Boingboing_r@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No child left behind leading to a nation without critical thinking. Guantanamo bay. Imprison who the fuck you want without consequence. Making it law to invade the ICC if any American soldier is ever held to accountability. Crashing the entire global economy by relaxing laws on banks and investors. I mean Bush was pretty awful. Trump is just dumb as bricks walking in the same path set by Bush.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
Trust me, I know how bad Bush was. I was there.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
The bank thing that lead to the eventual collapse was a Clinton thing.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
its not a contest and its pointless to think otherwise