People forget Bush 2 because he was charismatic.
Comment on Do you think that Trump is the most hated U.S. president?
mrmaplebar@fedia.io 6 hours ago
Not really sure why anyone would hate any other president more...
I guess there's like Andrew Jackson, but even then we're so far removed from that time it'd be weird to say you "hate" him.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
subverted_per@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago
Bush 2 was a failson who was largely well intentioned, but also had no idea what his dad’s friends were doing in his cabinet. His second term he started taking a more proactive role when he realized how he was responsible for a lot of the fuckery going on around him. At the same time, Iraq was all his baby. I don’t say this to absolve him of anything, he was a shit president, but he was about as shitty as any other nepobaby that managed to fail into high office.
mrmaplebar@fedia.io 5 hours ago
Iran is probably going to make Iraq look like child's play.
America is now at a crossroads of bad choices: we either surrender and retreat (further entrenching anti-American power in the region for decades to come), or we commit harder to winning by putting boots on the ground (beginning what will be a long and bloody war for no reason).
Trump may think there's an easy out on Iran, but when our best option is surrender it's already a shit show.
grue@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
The difference is that Iran doesn’t even make the top 10 list of reasons Trump deserves hate.
mrmaplebar@fedia.io 5 hours ago
I thought George W Bush and his admin was the worst Republican America could come up with... that was, until 2016...
I'd take W over Trump any day. Before the Iran War maybe there was an argument in Trump's favor. But today? No contest.
TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 6 hours ago
“he paints now!”
ripcord@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
What about hated at the time?
OwOarchist@pawb.social 5 hours ago
Lincoln, no contest. Having half the country in armed rebellion trying to kill you is hard to beat.