Comment on End of an era?

NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• Vipsu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Games on GOG come with offline installer that can be used to install the most reacent version.

  But you’re right, many games do require day 1 patches or even game data to be dowloaded but that makes these worse / lower in quality for many.

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  • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s gog, not consoles.

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• Aneorthisio@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  That is only the case because your console is connected to the internet. For example, I can dust off my old PS3 today and play the version 1.0 release of GTA V after installing it from the disc because the console is offline, meaning there won’t be any prompt asking me to update the game to the latest version, and it simply works.

  You might argue that this is a bad example and that GTA V runs better on modern hardware, so let us consider Bloodborne on the PS4 instead, a title you will not find anywhere else and for which current emulation remains, at best, sketchy. I can insert that disc into my PS4 unplugged from the internet and play it immediately without any mandatory update.

  Killing physical support means the end of this possibility for further releases, not that Sony has many exclusives these days, but for the handful of PS6 games that won’t make it to PC.

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  • ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And there were ps5 discs that did this. I played Astrobot for a month with no downloads or updates.!

    I agree it wasn’t the norm, but it was possible.

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  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Were there any ps5 games that could play from the disc offline anymore?

    I guess that was my point: that ps5 players already were used to having to deal with online content.

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    • ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      As I mentioned above, whilst not standard, yes there were titles that could be played without updates.

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      • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        OK, I was looking over Does It Play and a lot do let you play without updates, although the site notes those can have a lot of issues before being patched.

        It was more than I would have thought, since everyone I know with a ps5 seems to spend more time getting updates than actually playing, lol.

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    • Aneorthisio@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Fair point, I don’t own a PS5 so I can’t tell.

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• Zink@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It won’t really affect me, but I understand the appeal of a physical artifact servicing as time game’s license for those who like to lend, sell, trade, library, etc.

  And those same benefits are why the corporations can’t wait to do away with it. It’s been quite a while since Microsoft tried the same thing and people freaked out enough that they reversed course.

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  • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s worth pointing out that Microsoft didn’t try the same thing. Microsoft tried to move to “physical as digital”, where they retained the benefits of physical copies such as resale and loaning.

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    • Zink@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I specifically remember that their plan was essentially CD Keys. You’d buy a physical game and it would have a code inside, or the discs would have unique identifiers that force linked to your account, or whatever.

      So yeah, essentially physical media with a digital license. If you were going to be able to resell your game it was going to have to go through microsoft, or maybe you could lend a friend your disc and that lets them buy their own license for a small discount to play it.

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      • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It was keys in a box, but they had a framework to allow physical retailers to remove licenses from Xbox accounts and refresh the license key for resale. They also had a system for you to loan your digital games out to your friends.

        They abandoned it all after the ridiculous crashouts by people who couldn’t see where the future was heading, and now you get digital with no resale and no loaning.

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• HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Wow you’re young

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  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Or old enough to not care that much. What am I going to do with more plastic?

    BUT, I should have been more clear that I was talking only about ps5 and ps5 owners. I would never own one. Their online account is annoying and I have never forgiven them for the rootkit.

    I was surprised to find out that there are games that will play without the internet. Although every ps5 MUST be connected to the internet first to link the disc drive to the device.

    I used Does It Play to look at the games, and a lot of them will not work without updates. I assumed all at this point, which is why I said what I said.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      no worries. i sometimes make erroneous assumptions off incomplete data too

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