You can’t resell or let a friend borrow easily like with a physical disc
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Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Never had a console, but I’d be glad without the silly slow disks. I own my phone, my PCs, my servers, don’t use US-bigtec, don’t stream, don’t lease cars, don’t rent…but this?
Don’t most games need net for verification or updating anyway? So it’s not yours even with a silly disk in hand. I stand corrected if all games are 100% offline and a console would run forever with no net. I just don’t know.
Chivera@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
And those never check license online? How can they be sure it’s not just a rip or copy? Still the same old mechanisms that didn’t really work on PC 20yrs ago? So I just pull the net-cable and it continues to work forever? (Minus updates and such)
SparroHawc@piefed.world 1 day ago
That’s correct. You can play it just fine unless you’re playing a multiplayer game or DLC. You put the disc in, it installs what it needs to install in order to run, and you play the game.
That way, when the servers go down, you can still play it.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
That’s nice. A wonder this survived so long. On PC it died 2 decades ago. Except for old games and some rare special ones like witcher3. Legally at least. I boycotted steam for years when it started because I knew this was the end of trading games or owning them. Then I gave up because resistance was futile and now I have like 100k in games I will never own and would loose if steam was gone.
EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world 1 day ago
In PS4 days, it was still common to be able to install & play games only from the disc. You were never forced to go online with your PS4. Even if you bought a game online you could always play offline
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Pure online games is kinda obvious 😁
Always offline = forever? Not license verification once a month or so?
EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You had to put in the disc to play. So you could trade or share your games with others.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
So like 20yrs ago with PCs. Explains the many downloadable PS4 games. Trading was nice, yes. I’m baffled consoleros can still do this. Would’ve bet you were already brought down to our level.
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 1 day ago
I’d be glad without the silly slow disks.
Games aren’t streamed from the optical disks anymore. 8th gen of consoles (PS4 and Xbox one) required installing to a drive in order to play since HDD/SSD over sata is faster than optical.
Don’t most games need net for verification or updating anyway?
Yes, for updates, but I feel like you also need to do that on PC since we haven’t invented magic quite yet.
So it’s not yours even with a silly disk in hand
This does not follow from your previous statement. “If fish can’t fly then why are tomatoes red.” Games with the full game on disk work as is with whatever version of the game was put on there unless it requires online access.
Luffy879@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
With a CD you had the option to play on an airgapped ps4
Also, the problem is not digital but not being able to transfer your license, etc
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
But ps4 is old, yes? Does it still get new games? And can you just give me your disc and then it’s my game? If yes, I can’t imagine that this would be around any longer. You must not own things.
My wife has a switch and this thing is just shit. Expensive crap games bound to your account. Most are just codes anyway.
zikzak025@lemmy.world 1 day ago
PS4 still gets new games, yes. Even physical ones.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Nice. But still. This will end in the next 1-2yrs I assume, as one is urged to upgrade to the ps5?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Dude purple are still checking out ps4 games at the library. Old and good are not mutually exclusive. Usually we only remember the good old stuff. Music, movies, books, you name it
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
True. Yet when I tried to replay games I have the fondest of memories of, it often is just 99% nostalgia. Seeing all the flaws, the horrible ui, the missing QoL we just expect nowadays l etc. I don’t care much for gfx, but it’s hard to really get into those again. Music, yeah sure. Good music does not age. Movies…depends. Some age horribly 😁 For books I rarely find time, but they’re timeless too.
tyler@programming.dev 1 day ago
Switch is still offline… you can play any game you got on a cartridge for forever with no problems, what are you drinking dude?
zikzak025@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Unless we’re talking Switch 2 game key cards. Those are just downloads you can trade. But at least Nintendo puts all of their own properties on full carts rather than game key cards (Pokopia aside; Gamefreak and Pokemon are technically not Nintendo).
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I don’t drink. But also don’t use the switch. Also I said most games are codes in a box with no cartridge. She only has one damn thing on a cartridge. Considering how much we paid for that tiny console and how expensive the games are, I wouldn’t touch those with a 10m-pole. Would pay a bit more and get a steamdeck if I absolutely HAD to be mobile.
Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m a big fan of the switch, since it can be emulated. Best way to play console games… wait a few years and have pretty much all of them.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Can it? That’s cool but I somehow wouldn’t know why? For the exclusives? Are there even some? Isn’t the only benefit of a switch to be super mobile? An emulator would be my 1st choice, but also defeats the whole purpose of a switch.