Comment on What can be done to prevent more dangerous heatwaves in Europe?

daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• Balinares@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  NO! This is not just false, it’s dangerously false.

  If a country takes measures to emit 500M less tons of CO2 per year, the result is… 500M less tons of CO2 in the air per year than otherwise. That helps!

  There isn’t a single fucked/not fucked threshold. There are a lot of nuances of fucked and each one we dodge puts us in an incrementally less awful place. Who knows how many more lives saved for each Mton CO2 not produced. Who knows how many species get to live, how many fewer days of heatwave per year, how many more glaciers survive.

  I STG, “we’re already fucked anyway” is oil shill talk. Fuck that noise, let’s make oil obsolete, let’s avoid entire shades of fucked, we’ve already made insane progress with renewables and electric cars, let’s just keep going! Let’s pressure our individual politicians because you know the fuckers love it when you give up! You on board?

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If a country takes measures to emit 500M less tons of CO2 per year, the result is… 500M less tons of CO2 in the air per year than otherwise. That helps!

    Not if that country just offloads industry to another country. This is what the west is doing, offloading dirty industry to China, then pointing fingers at China.

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    • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      💯

      Australia is “reducing” their emissions by having China manufacture everything using the coal that companies dig out of our ground and sell them, then we buy it all back and ship it over here on planes and boats, while claiming we’ve reduced emissions.

      It’s all a grift.

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  • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    let’s make oil obsolete

    Yeh good luck with that. There is literally no known replacement for oil. It is in the creation of basically everything that you interact with every single day.

    I’m not exaggerating btw. There is no known oil substitute for most products that we use oil for.

    linkedin.com/…/can-we-really-live-without-oil-bru…

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• yermaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  "Nobody else is doing anything about it so why should we go slightly without and pay slightly more to do our part?"

  • pretty much everyone at the same time, unironically.

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• SaraTonin@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Also, what you’re doing now will have an effect a decade or more down the road

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