Comment on GTA 6 will cost £70 - and physical edition will not contain a disc

• yakko@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There’s gaming as in games, and then there’s gaming the marketing term. The latter is for rich people.

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• Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I have my doubts that it’s one of the cheaper hobbies. In my eyes it’s one of the most expensive ones you can have. It has a high entry level cost(if you are a PC gamer likely 1k+), plus a moderate to high upkeep cost(new games @ ~30-70$ depending on quality) to keep in the hobby. It’s also one of the few hobbies where you are expected to upgrade at least every few years in order to stay relevant.

  Most hobbies are a cost to enter, then a relatively small upkeep style cost. For example engineering, fishing, scrapbooking, puzzles, hunting, even crocheting or knitting are all you buy the tool for it, and then maybe spend a yearly cost for new supplies or a license to do the hobby.

  Gaming the cost never goes down. You are either buying a new game cause the old one was completed, or upgrading your parts.

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  • dev_null@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You are just making an argument that it’s possible to spend a lot of money on gaming, which is true. It’s possible to spend a lot of money on most hobbies. The question is how much are you required to spend to take part. In the current AI bubble it is more expensive than it should be, but I bought a Steam Deck for $399 when it launched, and there are so many free games you never have to spend a dollar.

    Yeah, keeping up with new hardware and latest games will cost you, but you don’t need to do that. Since you bring up fishing, a fishing license you have to renew every year, fishing rod and all required gear, will already cost you many times that amount.

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    • Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m making the argument that gaming is not a cheap hobby.

      It can’t be cheap regardless of what is stated.

      The cost of your steam deck alone has already ate up over two thirds of what I have spent fishing in the past ten or so years and that’s with a rod, a few ice fishing rigs and buying a yearly fishing license.

      Gaming is not a cheap hobby. There are ways that you can make it cheaper, but I would never agree that it is one of the lesser expensive hobbies.

      I think I would have to agree with your metric of 450 being the starting point., because this Steam Deck is probably the cheapest option you can have for a gaming system at this point but that’s not going to provide you with any games. You are going to have to find some way of doing so, and for someone who just spent $450 on a gaming unit, that probably means you’re going to be spending money on the Steam store. Because it’s not like Epic Game Studios allows you to retroactively redeem every freebie they offer.

      I spent $150 on my rod, another $100 on my ice fishing rig, and I have spent 30 a year for my fishing license. You can also include the boat, if you like, which would be $50 that I spent 15 years ago, but I generally fish off the shore.

      Now, I will agree with you that if you’re doing deep sea fishing, that’s where the mega bucks is. My parents do that. I couldn’t do it. Because that’s like $1,500 for the boat trip, or buying a boat that can handle the ocean. on top of the at minimum $300 deep-sea fishing poles because everything needs to be stronger and weighted

      But I definitely don’t agree that fishing as a whole is a more hobby than gaming, that concept is absolutely ludicrous to me.

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• hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  $5 game is still going to require the console or a PC to play on. And if you want to play the latest title with your friends, it’s going to be 1-2k on the hardware before you can even launch the game

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  • markz@suppo.fi ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    A $5 game is unlikely to need 1-2k on hardware to launch

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  • dev_null@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And if you want to play the latest title

    Well there is your problem, you can’t compare that to gaming as a whole. That’s like saying photography is only for rich people because good lenses can cost thousands, before you even get a camera to attach them to. Which is true, but you don’t need that.

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    • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You can take a photo of the same mountain with the latest and fanciest canon or whatever and your grandma’s old film camera, but you can’t play a lot of games with few years old gaming PC

      For example my old gaming PC with 1st gen Ryzen and rx6600 while quite new (~2018-2020 I think) is already severely underspecced to play some modern games even on lowest graphics settings. Luckily I don’t have any interest on playing anything except a little classic wow and oats, so don’t really care of upgrading

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      • dev_null@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I very much agree, it’s hard. But I also think that older games are still just as fun. There are whole emulation communities that just play retro games. That’s an extreme example, but gaming is a very wide hobby and whatever your budget it, you can probably find fun stuff to do.

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  • Kirp123@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Sure but you can get a cheap second hand PC or a laptop or a console to play that 5 dollars game and it’s a one time purchase.

    Shit you don’t even have to pay 5 dollars, there are plenty of games that are free. I’ve been playing Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead for hundreds of hours and haven’t paid a cent since it’s a free game, it’s updated daily and it can run on basically any PC since it’s an ASCII game. This is like complaining that it’s too expensive to get into woodworking because you have to buy a hammer.

    And if you want to play the latest title with your friends, it’s going to be 1-2k on the hardware before you can even launch the game.

    Get friends that don’t ask you to spend 1000 dollars to hang out with them.

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hobbies cost money. Spending $1000 which can last 5-10 years doesn’t make anyone “rich”

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    • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Having $1k+ disposable money makes you kinda wealthy though

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Not really. It means you can save your money.

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