Interesting. Memories from my Christian school are comunig back :'(
Comment on NASA has some explaining to do
prole@sh.itjust.works 9 months agoMary Magdalene. It’s never explicitly stated, but they were very close.
hackris@lemmy.world 9 months ago
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 9 months ago
There does seem to be an effort made to get rid of her by the early church followers. Implying that she was a whore could have been a strategy. It’s weird because the Johannine community tried to save her in text. Which would mean it was the Paul crowd that did it and there is not a clear reason why. She would have had little interactions with the Paul community.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Source?
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The Bible. What do you want from me?
The Christ confessor in Mark, Luke, and Matthew is Peter while Mary gets to go to the cave. In John the Christ confessor is Mary and she gets to go to the cave. The early church fathers liked to really play up her supposed life of being a whore before repentance. Meanwhile Paul hints at her existence and says nice things about her. At the same time Mark makes her so dumb she “tells no one” about what would be the single most important moment in Christianity while Luke and Matthew give her a helper to make the right decision.
It’s hard to pinpoint exactly what happened but there is a trend. She goes from being a major leader of the earliest church to a whore that Jesus saves and is too stupid to know what she saw. If I had to take a bet: she was part of the very early church, funded and organized a lot, and had some falling out probably with someone from Paul’s community. So Mark tried to memoryhole her and would have done it except John had some story about how she rocked and saved her.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 months ago
What do you mean the Christ Confessor? In Matthew 28 , Peter isn’t mentioned, but Mary finds the empty tomb. In John 20 and Luke 24, Peter runs to the tomb after being told by Mary. In all of these accounts, Peter is given a position which appears to be “lesser” than Mary Magdelene. In Mark, she was too afraid to tell anyone until Jesus appeared to her and reassured her (John goes into detail about this, and notes how she was crying in distress). If she actually didn’t tell anyone permanently, that fact wouldn’t have been recorded.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 9 months ago
She was just one of His many followers, it’s quite an absurd speculation. Also doesn’t say that she was a prostitute anywhere.
prole@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
True. If only the was more than one story from his life between being a child, and being in his 30s… Oh well I guess we’ll just have to assume he lived as a monk and denied himself of anything pleasurable.
Though I recently learned that there is a book about it, it’s just that it wasn’t chosen to be “canonical,” and therefore means you can ignore it completely? Curiously, Jesus does some really fucked up things in that book, including showing off his powers, and killing people just to bring them back to life.
Who gets to decide that book isn’t true but the rest are?
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 9 months ago
The infancy Gospel of Thomas was written well over one hundred years after Jesus had already left earth, in the second century. It claimed that Jesus performed random frivolous miracles for fun, when the Gospel of John said that the water to wine miracle was the first. We also don’t know who “Thomas the Israelite” is either.
It’s likely just something someone made up to try and give a narrative for Jesus’ childhood.
Jesus also likely cast the demons out of Mary Magdalene while in His thirties. Jesus wouldn’t need a female partner if He actually was truly God.
prole@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
When were Matthew, Mark, Luke and John written?
Here, let me save you a quick Google:
Oh look at that.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 9 months ago
This is an actual Biblical fact, for more details see the documentary The Da Vinci Code.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 9 months ago
If it was a biblical fact, you could give me details by giving me biblical references, not a french fiction novel 😂
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 9 months ago
Autism, huh?