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Epp@lemmus.org 2 weeks agoI would argue that humans are the same, we just don’t have access to our programming. If we did, and could measure the state of our brains, we would be entirely deterministic, as well.
Nibodhika@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s a very Newtonian way to look at the world. Even IF that was correct (which is not because of the uncertainty principle), if you go down that road you will get to the conclusion that everything is intelligent even a simple program that chooses an alternate greeting between Hello and Hi can be considered intelligent by that standard.
Epp@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
Yes, I know, and what you’re overlooking is that the uncertainty principle applies to LLM, as well, and even your example alternating algorithm.
That’s why a solid definition of intelligence is necessary, and my own is that the closer the number of potential responses approaches infinity, the more intelligent it is. On this scale modern AI is not as intelligent as humans, but it’s certainly more intelligent than your alternating greeting.
Nibodhika@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The uncertainty principle does NOT apply to LLMs and absolutely, unquestionably does NOT apply to my alternating algorithm. You need to understand the difference between “I don’t know” and “It’s unknowable”.
Epp@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
It most certainly does. Do you think that you know the position and state of all the electrons in a computer when a program is executing?
You need to learn the difference between, thinking and knowing.