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Let’s objectify. Men are ugly so the pornographic world zooms onto their penis or sexual organ worthy of mention for to the girth or veininess or length or size.

Women on the other-hand are beautiful enough for jealousy of all kinds to happen between people who have only ever seen them. I for one would jump at the opportunity to be her in this photo for a few hours. She gets to be herself her entire life! Imagine that! Imagine someone wanting to be you at all. But then imagine every living guy wanting to do you. There are limits to what would be a gift vs a curse. Maybe marketing your body like this is not the worse idea. So long as it is your choice to do so, that’s freedom at its core.

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CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Men are so sexy tf are you on?

It’s a shitpost, cope

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LycanGalen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
The majority of porn is created for straight men. North American men, where the majority of the commercial porn industry operates, are socialised to think that finding another man attractive = gay, and gay = emasculating/bad (I don’t agree, that’s just the messaging). So the fact that porn only shows a man’s genitals serves 2 purposes: it helps maintain the “no homo” mentality, while also allowing the viewer to insert themselves into the scene. That’s now their big, veiny penis and huge cum shot. It has nothing to do with the attractiveness of men (though the statement “men are ugly” is a part of the larger problem in how our societies are socialised around gender)

Beauty is a series of social expectations. By Eurocentric standards, in the 1800s a beautiful woman was fat. In the 2000s she was athletic, today, she is gaunt with a distinct lack of fat in her face. Nothing we see in photographs is “natural” beauty. Even this one - that woman is working. Her job is dependant on selling a sexual narrative to her customers. What you see isn’t so much “herself” as a product she has assembled with makeup and clothing in order to do her job. You are fantasising about the opportunity to be the fantasy she is selling. Not to actually be her. We don’t know what her real life is like.

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- altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Imagine how it would be to be her for a day. Like what’s important to you is probably completely different from her perspective. Yet the question remains… Why does she choose to sell her body/image? Does she think the she has nothing else to offer? I bet there’s much more than what we see.
  
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  - LycanGalen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    The last sentence in my reply was “we don’t know what her real life is like” you’re parroting that back at me, but trying to speculate on what her life is like at the same time. We don’t know. We can’t know.
    
    If you really want to know what it’s like to be a woman, maybe ask a few to go for coffee and actually listen to what they have to say. They’re not these mystical creatures you are making them out to be. If you are transfemme, or a CD, that’s great. And it’s still not OK to find your own gender by compounding the stereotypes.
    
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    Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Having know a number of men and women that have worked in the porn industry, and on the streets.
    
    The only consistent thing between the lot was they didn’t really enjoy the experience after the fact with the expection of one woman. She had actual hypersexuality disorder csbd if I recall.
    
    She absolutely loved doing porn and said it helps deal with the stress and anxiety she felt if she wasn’t masturbating 24/7. Basically a really shitty form of self medication. Since when she was younger getting medication to help basically wasn’t an option.
    
    But she had really insane stories and was genuinely a really cool person to talk to. She actually passed away a few years ago in her late 60s. She was my neighbor growing up for like 15 years.
    
    She also had the absolutely most fucking awesome garden iv still ever seen in my life.
    
    Honestly the only good neighbors we had when I was young. The rest were assholes or asshole drugdealers.
    
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    Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    And it’s still not OK to find your own gender by compounding the stereotypes
    
    Someone may like the stereotypes on themselves and it’s okay tbh, i see nothing wrong with it, the problem occour when they actively promote it and force it on others.
    
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    velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I don’t think they were arguing with you, but rather expanding on your comment.
    
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  - velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    We can’t humanize this woman in this community lest you gain the ire of all the men who want to laugh about women with daddy issues.
    
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velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

She gets to be herself her entire life!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Arguments like these are a major reason why there are still a lot of sexist young men. They say people are sexist because of insecurity but it’s people exactly like you who make others insecure. You may not be the whole problem, but you are in fact a majority of it.

I have seen so many people who love and even lust over men because of other body parts than the dick. In fact, in those pictures, the dick is not even visible.

Evidentially, your argument is an invalid, sweeping generalization targeted specifically to make people feel like shit for things they can’t even really control. You are arguing for the sake of making people feel like shit and thus your argument is invalid from the basis of its very intentions.

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Allero@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
To be fair, and, like, a heterosexual man in me would love to agree with you, men are different, and so are women.

Big part of why women often appear more attractive is because culture puts more pressure on women to take very good care of their looks. When men do the same, they can look very nice and attractive.

Besides, look an antique history and its medieval and modern heritage. Men can absolutely symbolize beauty.

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- CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Hell, makeup and high heels and stockings and almost everything else women see as pretty and feminine were originally made by and for men.
  
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QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
what an odd thing to say

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