And we can get all these things by eliminating billionaires
We can’t. Those things have to be organised and we could organise them right now.
The problem are not the billionaires but the lack of organisation of the people.
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shittydwarf@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
And we can get all these things by eliminating billionaires (And a trillionaire) from the population
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Bababasti@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Both can be true no?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Very hard to talk about “lessening crime” when you breeze by wage theft, land theft, and war crimes.
Like, I want to believe OP’s message, but I don’t think the problem ICE Agents are having right now is poverty wages. I don’t think the local PD out roughing up the homeless are lacking for health care or homes or strong unions. The suffocating waves of pipelines and highways and data centers that force people out of their homes aren’t being built because their investors lacked the amenities of a first class upbringing.
We have to clarify what kind of crimes we’re preventing. Nothing in OP’s list puts Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg off their bullshit.
psycotica0@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You’re not directly wrong, but the theoretical, philosophical, answer is that the social will that allows ICE to operate, or cops to thug about, is that people feel that there is dangerous lawlessness out there, and the only way to solve it is strong force. And sometimes a few eggs need to get cracked, but it’s okay because they deserved it.
So none of the things listed here prevent ICE, but ICE is powered by fear of “the criminals”, and if we solve the “criminal problem” with real solutions, suddenly it gets a lot harder to motive a brute squad when everyone is fine actually. And I don’t mean “the officers are fine” or “the would-be victims are fine”, I mean the random citizens sitting at home, already feeling secured without the police force in military gear.
And I mean maybe at least some of the shitty dudes are there due to broken homes fractured by substance abuse or financial stresses, or are themselves victims of fetal alcohol syndrome or something, which could possibly be lessened with tighter social circles and safety nets.
As you your other point, unions specifically address wage theft and would impact Bezos for sure. At least assuming “theoretically ideal” unions.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They believe this regardless of the actual crime rate. They believe it regardless of the number of cops on the streets. They believe it because they are trained to believe the mere presence of any number of minorities, young people, or migrants constitutes a threat to their safety.
Feels before Facts & Logic, combined with an increasingly hysterical right wing press produce a Phantom Menace that can be used to advance fascist policies.
I wish that were true.
But you can just cook up an endless series of AI scare videos to convince Memaw and Pep Pep that there’s a murderous riot of illegal transgender Muslim communists just down the road.