Comment on Dutch gamers file €220 million claim against Valve, operator of game platform Steam

• lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  But if you go on isthereanydeal.com you will see a whole bunch of online stores that offer sales on games. They offer Steam codes too but are not limited to Steam, they cover many other platforms (including Epic).

  (Those btw are all legit sites showing only sales endorsed by the game publishers themselves, they all sell new game codes. ITAD has a standing policy to only source from that kind of sales, strictly no key resale sites.)

  So if you can get Steam games cheaper than are currently listed on Steam, and many games are also available on GOG which is DRM free… not entirely sure what this lawsuit is about.

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  • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Limited time sales is not what’s being talked about. Those are allowed.

    It’s the regular pricing. A game listed on steam needs to make up for their 30% cut. Some other sites take a smaller cut. But multiple game companies have found that trying to list their games on non-steam key selling websites, for less money (because they don’t have to make up for as big a cut) are getting threatened to have their games removed from Steam for doing so. This is well outside any clause in Steam TOS, and would be illegal even if it was covered.

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    • imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      But multiple game companies have found that trying to list their games on non-steam key selling websites, for less money (because they don’t have to make up for as big a cut) are getting threatened to have their games removed from Steam for doing so.

      Has any of these claims been proven yet?

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      • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        They’re still working their way through the courts.

        One of them is over two years old, though, so it’s not just a clout chaser blowing hot air based on absolutely nothing.

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  • atro_city@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Could you share an example of a deal that is less than on Steam? I couldn't find one.

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    • lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It can import your Steam wishlist and give you tons of examples. 😊

      Here’s some: Civ 5, Disco Elysium, Yakuza 6, Borderlands GOTY, Outer Wilds, Doom Eternal.

      You can also make filters that limit the suggestions to a certain sale percentage (eg. 50%+ off), or to a max price (eg. $10).

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      • atro_city@fedia.io ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I looked at the examples you gave and in all of them, Steam has the lowest price

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• Nugscree@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I though that Steam required content parity e.g. you cannot create a cheaper bundle for your own storefront and not sell that exact bundle on Steam. But they have no issue with you generating keys on their platform and either sell those off for cheaper yourself (Humble bundle) or give them away.

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  • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Their TOS require non sale price parity with other stores that sell steam keys.

    Nothing else. They’ll still threaten to delist your game for seeking it cheaper on sites outside that scenario, hence the multitude of lawsuits.

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    • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They’ll still threaten to delist your game for seeking it cheaper on sites outside that scenario

      Do you have evidence?

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• ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  They won’t. They’re here to blindly defend a multi billion dollar company despite it actively costing them more money.

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  • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Proof?

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    • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You right here. Blindly defending them.

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      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You know perfectly well what I meant. Do you have proof that prices on Steam would were actually artificially inflated?

        Also, claiming I’m blindly defending them? I’m asking for hard evidence and telling people to not blindly believe claims and speculation until proven in court. How is waiting for verified evidence “blind”?

        Pure hypocrisy on your end

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