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pH3ra@lemmy.ml 3 days agoI said think gold digging brings misoginy by consequence, I never said I think it justifies it.
Don’t put words in my mouth just to cry for a cause there is no need to fight here.
And as a side, I always found the phrase “don’t hate the player, hate the game” as dumb as the culture who coined it: who the hell is playing the game? The spectators? Of course you hate the players, they’re the only reason the game is being played!
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
You literally called it a valid argument, don’t know how else to interpret that.
pH3ra@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
It involves assuming the point of view of a misoginist who feels entitled to be misoginistic. I know it’s not a position you didn’t think you’d end up when you woke up this morning, but trying to understand what’s going on in other people’s head is a first step towards fighting intolerance.
fracture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
“women should behave a certain way to not justify misogyny” comes off about as well as “black people should behave a certain way to not justify racism”, imo
i appreciate your intentions, but this is not the way
pH3ra@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Fucking sea lions all around…
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
It’s not that.
It’s, “if you rob someone at gunpoint then you can’t cry racism when you get arrested.”
It’s, “if you’re a gold digger, then you can’t cry misogyny when someone calls you a gold digger.”
Behave however you want, but if you take advantage of people then you don’t get to hide behind “systemic oppression” to avoid facing consequences.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
Would you consider it misogyny if someone mentions gold diggers in a conversation about dating? Or if they talk about gold diggers in any context at all? Or if someone even acknowledges that gold diggers exist?
Because a lot of people would consider that misogyny.
But an instagram model openly being a gold digger lends credence to the argument that “some women are gold diggers.”
So if you consider it misogyny to acknowledge that some women are gold diggers, then a woman being a gold digger is, by your very definitions, creating a pretext to justify misogyny.
(Funny how women can generalize about men, but when men generalize about women it’s suddenly a problem; or even if they don’t generalize but cite specific examples, people will still make a strawman argument about them generalizing so even that’s bad).