The Patriot Act and the invasion in Iraq based on nothing but lies were already the nails in the coffin for America.
911 was terrible but I never worried about america folding.
Under trump im seriously questioning every day how long this country will survive.
mech@feddit.org 6 days ago
ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 6 days ago
As soon as 911 happened and I saw the immediate reactionary shift to authoritarian policies I figured our nation had failed. But all I can accomplish are little things, so that’s what strive for. Holding the door, treating cashiers etc with courtesy and respect, whatever small acts of kindness I can do, basically.
imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
it’ll survive, the US is very malleable, but the world order is rapidly shifting so that other world powers and policies that are more hatmful than US policy are ascending or have surpassed the United States that the US cannot halt or change anymore, especially without allies that it’s withdrawn from or attacked.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
Sure, the lands not going anywhere but the country is knew is all but gone.
imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
honestly, maybe you didn’t know the country that well.
Domestic rights were being eroded steadily for decades, and the United States makes and has always made some truly awful foreign policy decisions, and it’s not like the US was founded as a paragon of virtue in the first place.
The collapse of the US has rapidly accelerated along its course with trump’s two terms and there’s less chance to redeem themselves with how rapidly he’s tearing everything apart.
It’s a lot harder to change track when you’re screaming down the rails.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
Decades? 20 years is decades. 30 years is decades. I dont know america 20-30 years ago?
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 6 days ago
the goal of Osama bin Laden was to get the US into such a fucking quagmire that it would collapse by running out of money.
Sometimes I think he succeeded.
citizensongbird@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Oh he absolutely succeeded. 9/11 wasn’t just an attack, it was a plan. Bin Laden detailed it in his videos, he knew exactly how the US government would react. Everything has unfolded according to his plan. Better, even. The ascension of Trump was even part of that plan. Bin Laden may be in hell, but he’s smiling.